Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 15:44:18 04/23/00
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On April 23, 2000 at 15:59:47, Christophe Theron wrote: >On April 23, 2000 at 10:27:28, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 23, 2000 at 04:01:13, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On April 22, 2000 at 19:15:20, Pete Galati wrote: >>> >>>>On April 22, 2000 at 18:27:14, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 22, 2000 at 14:46:28, Pete Galati wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 22, 2000 at 15:02:19, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 22, 2000 at 14:49:59, Pete Galati wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 22, 2000 at 14:20:57, A.L.Mourik wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hello dear CCC friends, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Although earlier reports from e.g. Jouni Uski, suggest an enormous increase in >>>>>>>>>strenght for Crafty 17.10 >>>>>>>>>Nuun 2 match result Fritz6 against Crafty 17.10 ends in a very clear >>>>>>>>>29,5-10,5!! victory for Fritz6. >>>>>>>>>Played on PII 400 8mb for HT, Timecontrol 5 min + 3 sec per move. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>There isn't generally an enormous increase in strength from version to version >>>>>>>>of any program, that's unrealistic to expect there to be. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Your time controls are a bit short there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Pete >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Why didn't you say or ask that of Jouni when he posted? >>>>>>>as all he said was blitz, that may even have been faster >>>>>>>than this. >>>>>>>Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>>Sorry, I don't read all posts, this one caught my eye because it was at the top >>>>>>of the board. >>>>>> >>>>>>If Jouni played some games this fast or faster, then my opinion would be the >>>>>>same, it's too fast. That isn't to say that I have not run games at that speed, >>>>>>I have, and they were too fast to judge the strength of a program. >>>>>> >>>>>>Pete >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Why? >>>>> >>>>>Can you please explain why? >>>>> >>>>>You must certainly have some evidence? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Christophe >>>> >>>>Why? Why what? Your question is far too vague. >>>> >>>>Pete >>> >>> >>> >>>Why is it too fast to judge the strength of a program? >>> >>>Give your evidence. >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >> >>One simple answer. Take the top 4 programs on the SSDF and play a very long >>round-robin event, but at blitz time controls. (IE every program plays every >>other program 100 times). Do you think the order will be the same as the SSDF >>list for standard time controls? >> >>I don't. I am certain of it. > > >I'm certain that I would get very valuable information from this. Quickly. > > > > Christophe I am certain you would get a completely different ordering than the way they are listed in the SSDF. So which rating do you like best? The one from blitz games? Or the one from standard games? Which type of game will you have to win to (a) win the world computer chess championship? (b) win the world championship from Kasparov or his successor? Blitz is a _totally_ different game from standard. You can do unsound things in blitz and get away with it. In standard you get pounded doing that. As a human player, I always play wild openings in blitz games, including things like the Latvian. I _never_ play it in a tournament game as black, however...
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