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Subject: Re: Old programs for download

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 22:34:09 04/23/00

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On April 24, 2000 at 00:51:30, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On April 24, 2000 at 00:24:05, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On April 23, 2000 at 23:33:56, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On April 23, 2000 at 17:38:23, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 23, 2000 at 16:54:26, John Coffey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 23, 2000 at 16:15:41, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 23, 2000 at 13:31:31, Pierre Bourget wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You can download old programs for Spectrum Z80 here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Goal/2054/notas/nota01.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pierre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The old Spectrum Z80 computers have an enviable collection of prorams from it's
>>>>>>era available to them.  And to download all of the 18 programs only uses 284Kb
>>>>>>of file space!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know anyone with a Spectrum Z80.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pete
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have one, but there is no way to get the data into the spectrum nor would
>>>>>I care to.   The only real advantage I can see is to use emulation for someone
>>>>>who wants a less than master strength opponent.
>>>>>
>>>>>John Coffey
>>>>
>>>>Well, I don't actually need any more "less than master strength" programs.  From
>>>>that era we have Cyrus (in that collection) and Psion available for running in
>>>>Dos, both are stronger than me I hate to say.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, I was looking at that site and thinking, ok, but how do you get them from
>>>>your pc to your Spectrum?  There is probably a way to do that, but I'll never
>>>>need to come up with it.
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>I guess nobody will do that. You just download a Spectrum emulator and run it on
>>>your PC...
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>I'd have to look for one, it might be interesting.  I'd have to take a closer
>>look at the site to see if they have one there.  If not, Simtel might have one.
>>
>>What I noticed a while back was that in order to use a TRS-80 emulator you
>>needed to get a ROM, and since that has a copyright, you pretty much needed the
>>original computer but there were odd little ways around that.  I have no idea if
>>a Spectrum emulator would have similar obstacles.
>>
>>Pete
>
>
>Unfortunately yes, you will have the same problem.
>
>Yesterday a friend of mine brought to me a CD full of emulators, including
>TRS-80 and Spectrum. But the ROMs codes were not on the CD for Copyright
>reasons.
>
>You'll find an emulator for Spectrum easily on the Internet, but it will be more
>difficult to get the ROM code.
>
>I wanted to try the TRS-80 emulator, but so far I did not manage to do it. I
>haven't got the ROM yet.
>
>I wonder if emulating a hardware that IS copyrighted is a violation of
>Copyright. If it is the case, then all these emulators are illegal.
>
>
>
>
>    Christophe

I would have to download some of the files and look at it again because my
memory's getting a bit foggy about the subject, but at Simtel, at their
Emulators to run in Dos page http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/msdos/emulate.html
 I think that this one has a way that you can make your own ROM for TRS-80 $
CoCo, and then one of the other emulators mentioned this one as being a possible
way around the ROM problem.  "Dragon/CoCo Emulator & Debugger v2.02 EGA 486+"
but I might be wrong about which one that is.

It would posibly be a copyright problem for you to have a ROM for a computer
that you did not purchase, but if you bought the computer that you are using the
ROM from for your emulator (in _your_ pc computer) then I don't think you have a
problem because you would afterall own that copy of the ROM.

The _problem_ would be if you created an emulator and distributed it _with_ the
ROM.  So your friend's CD wouldn't have them.  That's irritating, it would be
nice if someone would find a way to get ROMs from completly obselete computers
released to public domain.  I'm not holding my breath.

Pete



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