Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:06:55 04/24/00
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On April 24, 2000 at 15:01:22, Christophe Theron wrote: >On April 24, 2000 at 14:42:36, A.L.Mourik wrote: > >>Hello to everyone, >> >>Two days ago I played a Nunn 2 match between Fritz 6 and Crafty 17.10. >>This whether to check if Crafty as supposed by e.g Jouni Uski was really as good >>as been told . >> >>The result in a Nunn 2 match that I held was disappointing because it ended in a >>clear 29,5 - 10,5 victory for Fritz6. >>Timelevel 5min +3 sec. PII 400 each 8 MB HT, pondering off. >>The only reason that I played a Nunn 2 Match between these two engines, was to >>TEST which program under equal circumstances, as in this case in the Fritz6 gui, >>scored the best. This as an indication of the ?chesspower? of that engine. >>Imho these are the best circumstances with one computer to tell which program >>produces the best chess. >> >>You can?t argue on the fact that the circumstances for the given engines were >>not the same. >>As far as I can see it, your only real point is the presumption, that Crafty >>does a better time saving in the pondering on mode, than Fritz6. >>So I agree that with testing on two different computers and with both programs >>pondering on, this presumed negative effect for Crafty would be neutralised. >>On the other hand I wonder what Morsch or other respectable programmers opinion >>on these presumption is. > > > >I'm not sure I am a respectable chess programmer, but I want to ask something: > >Why is Crafty's management of pondering supposed to be superior to Fritz'? > >Why is pondering=off supposed to handicap Crafty more than Fritz? > >Who can seriously believe that Frans Morsch is so lousy that he cannot take >advantage of pondering as well as Bob does? > > > Christophe > Your question is _bass-ackward_ in it's phrasing. It should be "who would not believe that Frans has spent more time testing with ponder=off than bob has, so that it isn't a surprise that fritz probably does a better job of allocating time in that mode than crafty does?" _that_ is the point. Not that I am better with ponder=on. That I am _worse_ with ponder = off. How hard is that to understand??? > > > >>I would like to end this discussion with quoting Cock de Gorter who has written >>in his article on Kasparovchess.com >> >>"Crafty is extremely strong in tactics, but it makes positional errors and >>misplays some endgames. It doesn?t understand piece mobility. Despite its high >>rating on the Internet, Crafty is a weak program compared with the best >>commercial chess programs." >> >>I agree on that but still I must say that I am very glad to have Crafty for >>free.
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