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Subject: Re: Crafty 17.10 not that strong

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:12:46 04/24/00

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On April 24, 2000 at 15:39:41, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On April 24, 2000 at 14:15:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>You can prove that blitz ratings are _not_ good predictors for standard ratings
>>in every case.  And _that_ was the issue.  Bertil mentioned Genius and Nimzo
>>as two cases.  Ed added Rebel as a third.  I had already added crafty as the
>>first name mentioned...  So I don't care if, on some occasions, a blitz rating
>>does predict a standard rating.  I care more about on some occasions, a blitz
>>rating does _not_ predict a standard rating.
>
>So you got a list of people who don't care for blitz matches. Maybe they have
>some anecdotal evidence showing that blitz matches are useless. But has anything
>seriously been done to prove this?
>
>Experiments have shown that computer-computer match results can swing wildly,
>even if you play 100 games. So if you really want to prove that blitz match
>results are useless, it seems to me that you would have to play two matches of
>at least 100 games each between two programs. And that would just prove that the
>blitz results are useless for _those two programs playing against each other_.
>It would take a tremendous amount of effort to prove that blitz results are
>useless in general, even if you only take the top dozen or so programs into
>consideration.
>
>>enough said...
>
>You're not allowed to end discussions here.
>
>-Tom


Who said "blitz matches are _useless_???"  I said "blitz matches do not show
how the same two programs will do at longer time controls."  Care to join the
right conversation?  And I can certainly end a discussion here from my end...



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