Author: blass uri
Date: 13:37:40 04/24/00
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On April 24, 2000 at 16:06:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 24, 2000 at 15:01:22, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On April 24, 2000 at 14:42:36, A.L.Mourik wrote: >> >>>Hello to everyone, >>> >>>Two days ago I played a Nunn 2 match between Fritz 6 and Crafty 17.10. >>>This whether to check if Crafty as supposed by e.g Jouni Uski was really as good >>>as been told . >>> >>>The result in a Nunn 2 match that I held was disappointing because it ended in a >>>clear 29,5 - 10,5 victory for Fritz6. >>>Timelevel 5min +3 sec. PII 400 each 8 MB HT, pondering off. >>>The only reason that I played a Nunn 2 Match between these two engines, was to >>>TEST which program under equal circumstances, as in this case in the Fritz6 gui, >>>scored the best. This as an indication of the ?chesspower? of that engine. >>>Imho these are the best circumstances with one computer to tell which program >>>produces the best chess. >>> >>>You can?t argue on the fact that the circumstances for the given engines were >>>not the same. >>>As far as I can see it, your only real point is the presumption, that Crafty >>>does a better time saving in the pondering on mode, than Fritz6. >>>So I agree that with testing on two different computers and with both programs >>>pondering on, this presumed negative effect for Crafty would be neutralised. >>>On the other hand I wonder what Morsch or other respectable programmers opinion >>>on these presumption is. >> >> >> >>I'm not sure I am a respectable chess programmer, but I want to ask something: >> >>Why is Crafty's management of pondering supposed to be superior to Fritz'? >> >>Why is pondering=off supposed to handicap Crafty more than Fritz? >> >>Who can seriously believe that Frans Morsch is so lousy that he cannot take >>advantage of pondering as well as Bob does? >> >> >> Christophe >> >Your question is _bass-ackward_ in it's phrasing. It should be "who would not >believe that Frans has spent more time testing with ponder=off than bob has, >so that it isn't a surprise that fritz probably does a better job of allocating >time in that mode than crafty does?" > >_that_ is the point. Not that I am better with ponder=on. That I am _worse_ >with ponder = off. How hard is that to understand??? I do not think that you are worse with ponder=off. I do not think that Frans wasted a lot of time about ponder=off games. The important games for him including ssdf games are with ponder=on Uri
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