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Subject: Re: Crafty not that strong (2)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:56:05 04/24/00

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On April 24, 2000 at 16:50:01, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On April 24, 2000 at 16:06:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 24, 2000 at 15:01:22, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm not sure I am a respectable chess programmer, but I want to ask something:
>>>
>>>Why is Crafty's management of pondering supposed to be superior to Fritz'?
>>>
>>>Why is pondering=off supposed to handicap Crafty more than Fritz?
>>>
>>>Who can seriously believe that Frans Morsch is so lousy that he cannot take
>>>advantage of pondering as well as Bob does?
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>Your question is _bass-ackward_ in it's phrasing.  It should be "who would not
>>believe that Frans has spent more time testing with ponder=off than bob has,
>>so that it isn't a surprise that fritz probably does a better job of allocating
>>time in that mode than crafty does?"
>>
>>_that_ is the point.  Not that I am better with ponder=on.  That I am _worse_
>>with ponder = off.  How hard is that to understand???
>>
>>
>
>
>What makes you think that Frans Morsch would spend his time on a futile thing
>such as testing his program with ponder=off?  You yourself stated that testing
>your program with ponder=off is a waste of time, so I simply can't see why Frans
>would care to waste _his_ time.  And, if you are 'not better with ponder=on, and
>are worse with ponder=off', what is the inference to be drawn?




trivial to answer, when you think about it.  Why would he spend any time on
_anything_ other than the 'engine' itself?  Perhaps because he is the author of
a commercial program?  Why have the commercial programmers spent so much time
tweaking and tuning for SSDF play?  To make their program look better than the
others, for a marketing edge?  If you knew that lots of people wre going to be
playing games on one computer, using your program, would _you_ spend time to
make it play as strongly as possible to keep that marketing edge?

this is all really simple, when you think about it.  I don't 'sell' anything,
so I am not interested in those odd matches at all.  If I were selling a chess
engine, you can be _sure_ I would test it thoroughly in the mode that many users
are going to be using it...

>
>BTW, I think that Christophe has a sufficient quantity of grey matter to
>understand stuff, no need to turn ironic... and bass-ackward...
>
>***  Djordje



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