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Subject: Re: Crafty not that strong / Crafty not that weak / crafty ... <anything>

Author: Chessfun

Date: 13:59:34 04/24/00

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On April 24, 2000 at 16:55:45, José Carlos wrote:

>On April 24, 2000 at 16:40:39, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>
>>I am not quite sure what drives this sort of discussion, but I would like to
>>suggest a few things to reduce traffic on CCC:
>>
>>1.  If you don't like Crafty, don't use it.
>>
>>2.  If you do like Crafty, use it, but use it 'quietly' and avoid posting
>>results here.  That only serves to incite those that don't like Crafty to
>>higher levels.
>>
>>3.  If you want to complain about things that Crafty doesn't do well when
>>compared to commercial programs, then by all means _write_ _your_ _own_
>>program, and write it in such a way that it doesn't do the things you
>>dislike.  It is far easier to 'put down' than to 'roll your own'.
>>
>>4.  If you want to point out things that Crafty does well when compared to
>>commercial programs, then see #2 above.
>>
>>The crafty-lovers aren't going to convince the crafty-haters of anything.  The
>>crafty-haters are not going to convince the crafty-lovers of anything.  The
>>discussions simply drag on and on without ever solving a thing.
>>
>>If you have a program you know can throttle Crafty easily, drop by ICC or FICS
>>or chess.net and demonstrate its ability.  Crafty is playing on all three
>
>  What's the name of the "official" crafty account on Chess.net, Bob? I'd like
>to play Crafty, but no every crafty-clone.
>
>  Thanks in advance.
>
>  José C.

Try crafty(C)
Thanks.









>>servers, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, using identical hardware/book/tablebases
>>and configurations.
>>
>>We have just reached a milestone on our ftp site, which I discovered about a
>>week ago.  If you take every hostname that has ever downloaded a copy of crafty
>>(I am only counting crafty downloads not tablebase downloads which might be for
>>other programs of course), extract the hostnames, remove duplicates, the count
>>is now over 500,000.  An amazing number.  And that counts about a dozen
>>major ISP's as one site each (ie aol.com has a few hosts, each host looks like
>>one download site when in fact, it could be hundreds of different users.)
>>
>>The point of that is that there are plenty of people that are interested in
>>using the program, interested in helping make it better, or interested in
>>suggesting new features which I have included whenever there is time and the
>>feature is reasonable.  The 'negative' discussions don't change my mind about
>>what I am doing, so they are effectively pointless.
>>
>>I would personally like to see CCC have much more about 'computer chess' and
>>much less about "crafty is ....".  It is somewhat out of control, IMHO, and is
>>serving no useful purpose of any kind...
>>
>>Just an opinion of course, as always...



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