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Subject: Re: Crafty not that strong (2)

Author: James Robertson

Date: 17:09:16 04/24/00

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On April 24, 2000 at 18:30:35, odell hall wrote:

>On April 24, 2000 at 17:51:01, Christopher R. Dorr wrote:
>
>>Well, since several people have addressed the issue that your testing is
>>incorrect because you test both programs on the same computer, and since you
>>seem intent on ignoring the postings of Dr. Hyatt as to *all* of the many
>>reasons why your testing is flawed, I'll point out a couiple of different
>>issues.
>>
>>1. Crafty (Actually Scrappy) has established a rating (in blitz) of 3333 on ICC
>>over 4000+ games. How on earth can you say that this program is "not that
>>strong" when it has established itself as clearly better than the best GMs on
>>ICC, including several of the top 25 GMs in the world? The evidence is clear and
>>overwhelming.
>
>
> I think it is pretty clear that he is speaking comparatively, ofcourse he
>doesn't believe crafty is weak, He simply believes that compared to the Best
>commericial programs Crafty is not that strong, And I Agree.

It is amazing people can make statements like this when Crafty is 8th on the
SSDF list and within 30 points of SSDF #4.

How can anyone come to the conclusion that Crafty is not that strong compared to
 the best commercial engines?

James

>
>>
>>2. Perhaps you could find youself a nice quad Xeon to test both Fritz and Crafty
>>on. I'm certain that your results would be different from your test. Since you
>>obviously don't mind handicapping Crafty by playing on an inferior hardware
>>platform, I would have to assume that you woudn't mind handicapping Fritz by
>>playing on a very Crafty-friendly platform.
>>
>>For some reason you seem to have some kind of axe to grind regarding Crafty's
>>strength. I'm not sure why, but it would seem logical for you yo attack
>>something other than it's strength. It's only *too* obvious to all informed
>>observers that your title "Crafty not that strong" is patently absurd, and
>>primarily intended to start a flam war.
>>
>>Chris



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