Author: Dan Ellwein
Date: 07:26:47 04/25/00
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On April 24, 2000 at 22:13:10, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On April 24, 2000 at 18:49:04, Tom Kerrigan wrote: > >>On April 24, 2000 at 15:56:37, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On April 24, 2000 at 15:43:24, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >>>[snip] >>>>Here's my question. If pondering=off cripples Crafty so badly to the point that >>>>Bob Hyatt has to write dozens of posts about it, why doesn't he just do >>>>something to fix it? I mean, surely the time spent writing all those posts could >>>>have been put to better use. >>> >>>That makes a great deal of sense if Dr. Hyatt were writing crafty to make people >>>happy who want to play engine verses engine matches on a single machine. >>>However, he does not play it that way and it is contrary to his purposes. >>> >>>Do you alter your programs to make them do what others wish even when it does >>>not coincide with your desires? >> >>Yes. >> >>-Tom > >If your point is that Bob should do this or that, I think that Bob should be the >one who decides what Bob does. It's great to suggest improvements in >functionality or support, but if Bob wants to do it his own way, that's fine. > >I don't think Bob much likes single machine tests, and doesn't want to spend any >time supporting them. I can understand this choice. > >It's probably approximately as valid to compare Crafty with anything else on one >machine as it is on two, but my god, who cares? > >It's painful to watch people say that this or that program is stronger or weaker >than this or that other program. There's always a lot of attack and defense >from people on both sides of the issue, and sometimes from the authors or other >people who have a stake. > >But I think a lot of it is penis measuring, which is a dubious thing to be going >around doing, especially if it's not even your own penis that you are trying to >measure. > >I think that there are two categories of people doing this. 1) People who just >absolutely positively have to know which program is "best" for some unknown >reason. 2) People who have an agenda for or against someone, and want to build >that person up or tear them down. I can understand why someone would belong in >category one, but people who are in category two would do well to heed the >following advice: get a life. > >For all the arguments I've had with Thorsten, he makes sense some of the time. >I think that people would enjoy life more if they would stop comparing NUMBERS >and start having FUN. > >You'd think that for all the time people spend fiddling with chess programs, >that it might be more productive to use the programs to learn how to appreciate >chess more fully. > >bruce bruce... your words speak well... bottom line... if you are *serious* about testing chess programs against each other... then... buy two (2) identical computers to test them on... if you are *not* willing to do this... then do not test the different chess programs that are out there... regards - pilgrimdan
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