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Subject: Re: How much of a Genius must one be to create a 2400+ Program

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 23:31:19 04/26/00

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On April 26, 2000 at 18:29:19, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On April 26, 2000 at 15:10:31, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On April 26, 2000 at 11:18:10, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>
>>>On April 26, 2000 at 03:59:17, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On top of that, you have to know about alpha-beta. I have met a number of CS
>>>>grads who remember that minmax/alpha-beta is an algorithm but can't remember
>>>>what it's used for, much less how to implement it. And I'm sure that even the
>>>>best AI classes would not cover stuff like quiescence searches.
>>>
>>>Quiescence search was discussed in the initial AI class that I took back during
>>>my undergraduate program.  The professor wasn't a games person, but it was
>>>discussed during the section of the course on game-tree search.
>>
>>My bad, then.
>>
>>The AI classes at schools that I know about are almost all devoted to neural
>>networks and genetic algorithms and so forth. Very little about tree searching.
>>So, depends on which school you go to.
>>
>>-Tom
>
>You definitely have a point, though.  I was lucky that even though the fellow I
>took my AI course from was into symbolic reasoning, he felt that the concept of
>"search" was fundamental to AI, so quite a bit of the intro to AI course was
>devoted to search.  I can totally imagine some other professors doing some NN or
>GA or belief networks or whatever, and skipping search completely.  In fact, the
>professor the next year (a different one than who taught me) did exactly that,
>and boy were some of my friends bummed out!
>
>I've taken just 2 official "AI" courses: the intro, then a grad course
>specifically on Heuristic Search, so overall I've been rather happy with my AI
>courses. :)  I've also TAed lisp and prolog though, so I suppose I haven't
>completely ignored 'other' AI.
>
>Dave

Computer programming is like playing the harmonica:

1) If you don't have any interest in playing the harmonica, music school won't
help.
2) If you want to play the harmonica, you can get very good at it without going
to music school.  Perhaps you'll get even better if you go to school.

Tom is talking about CS courses but he wrote Stobor while he was in high school.

I took about a year of CS in college and flunked about half of it.

bruce



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