Author: Chessfun
Date: 15:30:18 04/27/00
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On April 27, 2000 at 18:21:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On April 27, 2000 at 15:32:29, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On April 27, 2000 at 14:48:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 27, 2000 at 11:11:29, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>There were 4 games won on time all won by Crafty.
>>>>
>>>>2 at 1 minute
>>>>1 at 2 minute
>>>>1 at 10 minute
>>>>
>>>>It is likely that 2 of these would have been Crafty wins
>>>>2 would have been drawn.
>>>>
>>>>The two shortest games in terms of # of moves were funny
>>>>enough at Tourney times both won by F6a.
>>>>
>>>>[Event "120'/40+60'/20+30'"]
>>>>[Site "Scarb"]
>>>>[Date "2000.04.25"]
>>>>[Round "4"]
>>>>[White "Fritz 6"]
>>>>[Black "Crafty 17.10"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "B89"]
>>>>[PlyCount "50"]
>>>>[EventDate "2000.??.??"]
>>>>
>>>>{W=12.1 ply; 299kN/s B=11.0 ply; 200kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4.
>>>>Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bc4 e6 7. Be3 a6 8. Qe2 Qc7 9. O-O-O Be7 10. Bb3 O-O {
>>>>Both last book move} 11. Nxc6 {-0.12/12 232} 11... bxc6 {0.08/11 242} 12. h4 {
>>>>(Bg5) -0.19/12 338} 12... d5 {-0.10/12 240} 13. h5 {(f3) -0.34/11 155} 13...
>>>>Bb4 {-0.12/11 310} 14. h6 {0.00/12 234} 14... Bxc3 {(g6) 0.00/10 523} 15. hxg7
>>>>{0.13/11 44} 15... Re8 {(Bxb2+) 0.36/10 255} 16. bxc3 {0.44/12 417} 16... Qe5 {
>>>>0.47/11 225} 17. Rh6 {(f3) 0.34/11 149} 17... dxe4 {(Nxe4) 0.42/10 262} 18.
>>>>Rdh1 {(Qc4) 0.88/12 264} 18... c5 {1.13/12 224} 19. Qd2 {1.47/13 376} 19... Bb7
>>>>{(Ra7) 2.18/12 749} 20. Bxc5 {1.50/12 77} 20... Qxc5 {1.70/11 280} 21. Rxf6 {
>>>>3.34/12 62} 21... e3 {1.70/10 194} 22. Qd3 {3.47/12 98} 22... h5 {3.91/9 311}
>>>>23. Rh6 {4.25/11 97} 23... f5 {6.62/10 1128} 24. Rxe6 {5.84/10 79} 24... Bd5 {
>>>>7.41/9 357} 25. Qxf5 {(Bxd5) 8.09/11 85} 25... Bxe6 {7.97/10 123} 1-0
>>>>
>>>>[Event "120'/40+60'/20+30'"]
>>>>[Site "Scarb"]
>>>>[Date "2000.04.25"]
>>>>[Round "6"]
>>>>[White "Fritz 6"]
>>>>[Black "Crafty 17.10"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "C19"]
>>>>[PlyCount "46"]
>>>>[EventDate "2000.??.??"]
>>>>
>>>>{W=12.7 ply; 316kN/s B=12.3 ply; 121kN/s} 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 c5
>>>>5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Qc7 7. Nf3 Ne7 8. a4 b6 9. Bb5+ Bd7 10. Bd3 Nbc6 11. O-O {
>>>>Both last book move} 11... O-O {0.21/12 242} 12. Re1 {0.06/13 758} 12... c4 {
>>>>(Rfb8) 0.28/11 481} 13. Bxh7+ {(Bf1) 1.47/15 148} 13... Kxh7 {2.52/12 257} 14.
>>>>Ng5+ {1.47/13 65} 14... Kg6 {2.52/12 231} 15. h4 {1.47/12 44} 15... Rh8 {
>>>>2.58/11 370} 16. Qg4 {1.75/13 77} 16... f5 {3.02/13 225} 17. exf6 {1.78/12 56}
>>>>17... e5 {3.68/12 639} 18. Ne6+ {1.75/11 51} 18... Kxf6 {3.68/12 207} 19. dxe5+
>>>>{2.38/12 103} 19... Nxe5 {3.96/12 207} 20. Qxg7+ {2.28/12 82} 20... Kxe6 {
>>>>3.96/12 207} 21. Bg5 {3.72/12 114} 21... d4 {5.05/11 662} 22. cxd4 {4.06/11 95}
>>>>22... Kd5 {5.09/11 1097} 23. Rxe5+ {4.53/11 58} 23... Kc6 {5.83/12 132} 1-0
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>Note that crafty will _never_ lose on time... unless you have hash set too
>>>high to make it page so badly it can't finish any kind of search at all. But
>>>that doesn't mean it won't get real short on time in lots of games. But it is
>>>quite capable of playing game/1sec games, as I do this as a stress-test of
>>>everything.
>>
>>If you read carefully the post of chessfun you can see that
>>Fritz lost on time and not Crafty.
>>
>>The games that were posted are not the games won on time but the shortest games
>>and they are connected with the 2 lines before the games and not with the
>>beginning of the post.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>I understood that. I was pointing out that the 'weakening' I see in crafty is
>not revealed in the guise of losing on time. That will never happen unless the
>game is sudden death and the opponent is _very_ fast.
>
>I wanted to be sure that if he was looking for crafty to lose on time, due to
>time mismanagement, she wasn't going to see it manifest itself like that. The
>thing to look at is what is happening around move 40 in a 40/2hr time control.
>That is where the most serious problems occur.... somewhere near the boundary
>of the next time control...
>
>Sorry I wasn't very clear about my response...
I understood, only reason I checked was Uri had pointed out
in the past some Nunn 1 matches I ran had a lot of time losses.
Thanks.
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