Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 15:32:14 04/27/00
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On April 27, 2000 at 16:10:10, Lex Loep wrote: >On April 27, 2000 at 14:54:59, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 27, 2000 at 10:56:41, Lex Loep wrote: >> >>>On April 27, 2000 at 07:53:53, James T. Walker wrote: >>> >>>>On April 26, 2000 at 08:13:35, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 26, 2000 at 01:17:06, Lex Loep wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 25, 2000 at 23:43:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 25, 2000 at 11:09:36, Lex Loep wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>This could happen because the prompt does not end in a % symbol. In that >>>>>>>>case when you login as guest you have the default FICS% prompt and >>>>>>>>all works fine, but login into your own account which may have a nonstandard >>>>>>>>promt gives the problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Lex >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If you need a particular prompt, why not set it yourself when you first >>>>>>>connect, to avoid this? I have seen this happen to other interfaces in the >>>>>>>past (ziics a long time ago when I was using it) but Don fixed it when it was >>>>>>>pointed out as a problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>also you should set the 'interface' variable for sanity... it lets the >>>>>>>opponent know you are running a chess program. IE winboard does >>>>>>>set interface "winboard 4.0.7 + crafty" or whatever... which really helps >>>>>>>to let everyone know this is a computer, rather than acting like a 'stealth >>>>>>>computer' which is not uncommon nowadays. I think interface authors should do >>>>>>>everything possible to prevent cheating when possible... although 100% is >>>>>>>impossible with a smart human operator that understands all the ICC commands. >>>>>>>But it will help with the majority of potential 'cheaters'... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>It's on my list for the next version. >>>>>> >>>>>>Lex >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>that's a good idea. Several cheaters get caught at present because when you >>>>>see 'interface=""' you know it is ChessPartner, since every other interface does >>>>>set the variable. >>>>> >>>>>:) >>>> >>>>I use the ChessPartner interface to play on FICS because I like it better than >>>>winboard but I'm not cheating with it. The problem is, it is very easy to cheat >>>>using it so there should be a way to tell if the program is playing the moves or >>>>not. >>>>Jim Walker >>> >>>Some of these issues will be addressed in a future version. >>> >>>- The 'computer plays' option will be protected so you can only change >>>it when not connected >>>- depending on the above option, a "set interface ChessPartner" or >>>a "set interface ChessPartner + engine" will be issued. >>>- The engine kibitzes it's presence (is already in there) >>> >>>Lex >> >> >>+alias kibitz tell nobody >> >>gets rid of kibitzes, unfortunately. Wish ICC would make it impossible to >>alias 'kibitz' itself, which would _really_ be nice. > >According to some private discussions, the 'set interface' can only be >done once per session, so once the computer plays option is protected >it should be fairly safe. >Of course one can always start another program in a new window or on >an other computer, making it impossible prefent cheating. You can also +alias set so that the interface can't set the variable. The human can then do what he wants. We need protected commands that can't be aliased.
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