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Subject: Re: Crafty 17-10 v Fritz 6a Nunn 1 @ 120'/40 + 60'/20 + 30'

Author: Mark Young

Date: 19:29:15 04/27/00

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On April 27, 2000 at 11:48:24, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On April 27, 2000 at 02:16:48, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>
>>All games on one Cel 433.
>>Ponder=off.
>>Tablebases used at 25 and longer.
>>Nunn 1 positions.
>>No opening books are loaded.
>>
>> 1 min game    Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10
>> 2 min game    Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10
>> 3 min game    Fritz 6a 13.0 - 7.0 Crafty 17-10
>> 5 min game    Fritz 6a 15.5 - 4.5 Crafty 17-10
>>10 min game    Fritz 6a 13.0 - 7.0 Crafty 17-10
>>25 min game    Fritz 6a 13.0 - 7.0 Crafty 17-10
>>60 min game    Fritz 6a 15.5 - 4.5 Crafty 17-10
>>Tourney times  Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10
>>
>>Once I figure out how to autoplay from the Nunn 1 opening
>>positions I will play all games with ponder=on.
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>I find what you are doing very interesting, not so much concerning the relative
>strength of Fritz and Crafty, which a series of matches between them can't
>determine anyway, but regarding testing procedures.
>
>I ran 2 similar matches myself between Crafty 17.10 and Fritz 6a in the GUI of
>Fritz 6a, with the General book of F6 (Alex Kure), tablebases on (2.6 GB of the
>Turbo CDs) and 4MB hash for each engine. The first match was played on 2 P600E,
>Game/1 minute, ponder on. The second, on a single P600E, ponder on and game/2
>minutes, since each program is using 50% of the CPU.
>
>In the first match, Fritz 6a won 15-5, which is consistent with your 14.5-5.5
>and seems to indicate that ponder off doesn't hurt Crafty more than Fritz.
>
>In the second match, Fritz 6a won also 15-5, which is consistent too, even on
>one machine and ponder on.
>
>Enrique

It has been clear for some time that Crafty is not hurt more then other programs
when playing with ponder off. I know Bob is a expert, but data has never shown
him to be correct in this matter, and I will always take data over opinion.



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