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Subject: Re: ChessPartner and ICS - problems .....

Author: Peter McKenzie

Date: 20:25:52 04/27/00

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On April 27, 2000 at 10:56:41, Lex Loep wrote:

>On April 27, 2000 at 07:53:53, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On April 26, 2000 at 08:13:35, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 26, 2000 at 01:17:06, Lex Loep wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 25, 2000 at 23:43:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 25, 2000 at 11:09:36, Lex Loep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>This could happen because the prompt does not end in a % symbol. In that
>>>>>>case when you login as guest you have the default FICS% prompt and
>>>>>>all works fine, but login into your own account which may have a nonstandard
>>>>>>promt gives the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Lex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If you need a particular prompt, why not set it yourself when you first
>>>>>connect, to avoid this?  I have seen this happen to other interfaces in the
>>>>>past (ziics a long time ago when I was using it) but Don fixed it when it was
>>>>>pointed out as a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>also you should set the 'interface' variable for sanity...  it lets the
>>>>>opponent know you are running a chess program.  IE winboard does
>>>>>set interface "winboard 4.0.7 + crafty" or whatever...  which really helps
>>>>>to let everyone know this is a computer, rather than acting like a 'stealth
>>>>>computer' which is not uncommon nowadays.  I think interface authors should do
>>>>>everything possible to prevent cheating when possible...  although 100% is
>>>>>impossible with a smart human operator that understands all the ICC commands.
>>>>>But it will help with the majority of potential 'cheaters'...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's on my list for the next version.
>>>>
>>>>Lex
>>>
>>>
>>>that's a good idea.  Several cheaters get caught at present because when you
>>>see 'interface=""' you know it is ChessPartner, since every other interface does
>>>set the variable.
>>>
>>>:)
>>
>>I use the ChessPartner interface to play on FICS because I like it better than
>>winboard but I'm not cheating with it.  The problem is, it is very easy to cheat
>>using it so there should be a way to tell if the program is playing the moves or
>>not.
>>Jim Walker
>
>Some of these issues will be addressed in a future version.
>
>- The 'computer plays' option will be protected so you can only change
>it when not connected
>- depending on the above option, a "set interface ChessPartner" or
>a "set interface ChessPartner + engine" will be issued.
>- The engine kibitzes it's presence (is already in there)

How about also setting the first line of the finger notes with details of the
engine (name and version) ?  Crafty, LambChop, and a few other engines already
do this, it makes it easy for other users to find out what program is being used
by an account.  Its not an anti-cheating device, just a courtesy thing.

I know Tiger/ChessPartner kibitzes this information at the start of a game, but
often people will start observing a game part way through it and hence miss the
kibitz.  Some computer accounts do alot of switching between engines, so its
hard to keep track of which engine they are using at any given time.

>
>Lex



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