Author: Lex Loep
Date: 22:04:46 04/27/00
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On April 27, 2000 at 16:58:48, James T. Walker wrote: >On April 27, 2000 at 16:10:10, Lex Loep wrote: > >>On April 27, 2000 at 14:54:59, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On April 27, 2000 at 10:56:41, Lex Loep wrote: >>> >>>>On April 27, 2000 at 07:53:53, James T. Walker wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 26, 2000 at 08:13:35, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 26, 2000 at 01:17:06, Lex Loep wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 25, 2000 at 23:43:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 25, 2000 at 11:09:36, Lex Loep wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>This could happen because the prompt does not end in a % symbol. In that >>>>>>>>>case when you login as guest you have the default FICS% prompt and >>>>>>>>>all works fine, but login into your own account which may have a nonstandard >>>>>>>>>promt gives the problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Lex >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If you need a particular prompt, why not set it yourself when you first >>>>>>>>connect, to avoid this? I have seen this happen to other interfaces in the >>>>>>>>past (ziics a long time ago when I was using it) but Don fixed it when it was >>>>>>>>pointed out as a problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>also you should set the 'interface' variable for sanity... it lets the >>>>>>>>opponent know you are running a chess program. IE winboard does >>>>>>>>set interface "winboard 4.0.7 + crafty" or whatever... which really helps >>>>>>>>to let everyone know this is a computer, rather than acting like a 'stealth >>>>>>>>computer' which is not uncommon nowadays. I think interface authors should do >>>>>>>>everything possible to prevent cheating when possible... although 100% is >>>>>>>>impossible with a smart human operator that understands all the ICC commands. >>>>>>>>But it will help with the majority of potential 'cheaters'... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It's on my list for the next version. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Lex >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>that's a good idea. Several cheaters get caught at present because when you >>>>>>see 'interface=""' you know it is ChessPartner, since every other interface does >>>>>>set the variable. >>>>>> >>>>>>:) >>>>> >>>>>I use the ChessPartner interface to play on FICS because I like it better than >>>>>winboard but I'm not cheating with it. The problem is, it is very easy to cheat >>>>>using it so there should be a way to tell if the program is playing the moves or >>>>>not. >>>>>Jim Walker >>>> >>>>Some of these issues will be addressed in a future version. >>>> >>>>- The 'computer plays' option will be protected so you can only change >>>>it when not connected >>>>- depending on the above option, a "set interface ChessPartner" or >>>>a "set interface ChessPartner + engine" will be issued. >>>>- The engine kibitzes it's presence (is already in there) >>>> >>>>Lex >>> >>> >>>+alias kibitz tell nobody >>> >>>gets rid of kibitzes, unfortunately. Wish ICC would make it impossible to >>>alias 'kibitz' itself, which would _really_ be nice. >> >>According to some private discussions, the 'set interface' can only be >>done once per session, so once the computer plays option is protected >>it should be fairly safe. >>Of course one can always start another program in a new window or on >>an other computer, making it impossible prefent cheating. > >Hello Lex, >The problem is -- it's already out there. No one has to volunteer to upgrade. The new version will be so much better, everybody want's to upgrade :) Lex >Jim Walker
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