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Subject: Re: Crafty 17-10 v Fritz 6a Nunn 1 @ 120'/40 + 60'/20 + 30'

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 23:47:51 04/27/00

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On April 28, 2000 at 02:00:05, Ralf Elvsén wrote:

>On April 28, 2000 at 00:36:59, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On April 27, 2000 at 02:16:48, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>All games on one Cel 433.
>>>Ponder=off.
>>>Tablebases used at 25 and longer.
>>>Nunn 1 positions.
>>>No opening books are loaded.
>>>
>>> 1 min game    Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10
>>> 2 min game    Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10
>>> 3 min game    Fritz 6a 13.0 - 7.0 Crafty 17-10
>>> 5 min game    Fritz 6a 15.5 - 4.5 Crafty 17-10
>>>10 min game    Fritz 6a 13.0 - 7.0 Crafty 17-10
>>>25 min game    Fritz 6a 13.0 - 7.0 Crafty 17-10
>>>60 min game    Fritz 6a 15.5 - 4.5 Crafty 17-10
>>>Tourney times  Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10
>>>
>>>Once I figure out how to autoplay from the Nunn 1 opening
>>>positions I will play all games with ponder=on.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>Great job!
>>
>>Even given the error margin due to the small number of games in each match, the
>>winning percentage is incredibly consistent.
>>
>>I'm not saying it would be as consistent with any program pair, but at least I
>>think it tells us something very interesting about these 2 programs.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>Yes, the consistency is almost too good to be true, not that I am saying
>there is something strange going on... :)
>
>If the games have been posted here, I am too lazy looking at them. Has anyone
>checked if there is a strong consistency in the outcome of particular openings
>played with different tine controls? I.e. , does Fritz always win one position
>and Crafty another?
>
>Sorry if this has been asked before.
>
>Ralf



That's indeed something you should do, Sarah.

No need to walk thru the games, just looking at the results lists will do.

If the programs always win, or lose, in the same positions, I guess we can
suspect that the understanding of the position has played a crucial role. Which
would mean that the evaluation functions are the key point in the outcome of the
match.



    Christophe



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