Author: Chessfun
Date: 03:49:20 04/28/00
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On April 28, 2000 at 02:47:51, Christophe Theron wrote: >On April 28, 2000 at 02:00:05, Ralf Elvsén wrote: > >>On April 28, 2000 at 00:36:59, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On April 27, 2000 at 02:16:48, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>All games on one Cel 433. >>>>Ponder=off. >>>>Tablebases used at 25 and longer. >>>>Nunn 1 positions. >>>>No opening books are loaded. >>>> >>>> 1 min game Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10 >>>> 2 min game Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10 >>>> 3 min game Fritz 6a 13.0 - 7.0 Crafty 17-10 >>>> 5 min game Fritz 6a 15.5 - 4.5 Crafty 17-10 >>>>10 min game Fritz 6a 13.0 - 7.0 Crafty 17-10 >>>>25 min game Fritz 6a 13.0 - 7.0 Crafty 17-10 >>>>60 min game Fritz 6a 15.5 - 4.5 Crafty 17-10 >>>>Tourney times Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10 >>>> >>>>Once I figure out how to autoplay from the Nunn 1 opening >>>>positions I will play all games with ponder=on. >>>> >>>>Thanks. >>> >>> >>>Great job! >>> >>>Even given the error margin due to the small number of games in each match, the >>>winning percentage is incredibly consistent. >>> >>>I'm not saying it would be as consistent with any program pair, but at least I >>>think it tells us something very interesting about these 2 programs. >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >>Yes, the consistency is almost too good to be true, not that I am saying >>there is something strange going on... :) >> >>If the games have been posted here, I am too lazy looking at them. Has anyone >>checked if there is a strong consistency in the outcome of particular openings >>played with different tine controls? I.e. , does Fritz always win one position >>and Crafty another? >> >>Sorry if this has been asked before. >> >>Ralf > > > >That's indeed something you should do, Sarah. > >No need to walk thru the games, just looking at the results lists will do. > >If the programs always win, or lose, in the same positions, I guess we can >suspect that the understanding of the position has played a crucial role. Which >would mean that the evaluation functions are the key point in the outcome of the >match. > > > > Christophe This is something I looked at and something that originally caused this post: http://site2936.dellhost.com/forums/1/message.shtml?108059 Some positions are won some are lost. There seems no consistancy. Position #13 for example Crafty won at tourney time though Fritz 6 as I recall had won most #13's prior to that. I will post a spreadsheet of the results similar to what I did in my Junior 6a Nunn 1 matches on my website: http://www.geocities.com/chessfun_1999 The purpose of those spreadsheets in the format made was to see if Junior 6a consistancy won certain positions. Thanks.
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