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Subject: Re: What makes Junior so good?

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 07:07:47 04/28/00

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On April 28, 2000 at 09:42:19, Eran wrote:

>On April 27, 2000 at 22:48:46, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On April 27, 2000 at 21:37:26, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On April 27, 2000 at 16:00:38, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>People say that junior 6a is not tactically the greatest, and no one seems to
>>>>agree that it is the best knowledge program either! Yet it is possibly the most
>>>>succesful program (against other computers) and at worsed second best.
>>>>In Iraqouzis tournament some time ago, it looked way better than its closest
>>>>rivals.So if not knowledge or tactics, then what makes it so great? something
>>>>else?
>>>> And I wouldn't agree it has been tested properly against humans yet either.
>>>>Against humans I think it needs much more testing than against other programs,
>>>>since humans are moving objects. Some programs might be psychologically more
>>>>tricky for humans but not stronger against them necesarily.Until-of course the
>>>>human is used to it.
>>>
>>>I'm not seeing many replies. Does that mean to say "It's not"?
>>
>>All I could come up with was a snide remark like "spit shine", I figured
>>everyone could do without it.  If I decide to buy another program, Junior would
>>be at the top of my list.  I'm not very concerned with the tests.
>>
>>Pete
>
>Well, I heard that Junior6 still does not have underpromotion code.

It does.

> Therefore,
>it is not state-of-the-art.

It is.

Enrique

> I mean it is not a complete thing. Don't you care
>buying it anyway?! I won't buy it unless it has underpromotion code. It is
>always worth buying any excellent chess software if it is state-of-the-art,
>right?
>
>I bought Junior5 about two years ago and I was disappointed because of no
>underpromotion code.
>
>Eran



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