Author: pavel
Date: 10:31:58 04/28/00
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On April 28, 2000 at 12:29:31, Chessfun wrote:
>On April 28, 2000 at 12:21:43, pavel wrote:
>
>>On April 28, 2000 at 12:05:04, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On April 28, 2000 at 11:58:05, Jason Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 28, 2000 at 08:59:27, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>All games on one Cel 433.
>>>>>Ponder=on.
>>>>>Tablebases used at 25 and longer.
>>>>>Nunn 1 positions.
>>>>>No opening books are loaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 min game Fritz 6a 10.0 - 10.0 Crafty 17-10
>>>>> 2 min game Fritz 6a 12.0 - 8.0 Crafty 17-10
>>>>> 3 min game Fritz 6a 16.5 - 3.5 Crafty 17-10
>>>>> 5 min game Fritz 6a 16.0 - 4.0 Crafty 17-10
>>>>>10 min game Fritz 6a - Crafty 17-10 running
>>>>>25 min game Fritz 6a 7.0 - 6.0 Crafty 17-10 Current score
>>>>>60 min game Fritz 6a - Crafty 17-10 Unplayed
>>>>>Tourney times Fritz 6a - Crafty 17-10 Unplayed
>>>>>
>>>>>These results seem to be all over.
>>>>>
>>>>>As anyone using F6 knows with ponder=on you get a question,
>>>>>Permanent Brain on single processor?.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Ponder on with one cpu will only determine which program can suck up more cpu
>>>>power faster. ;)
>>>>There isn't even a guarantee that the two engines would split it 50/50.
>>>
>>>This is also my opinion.
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>hi sarah,
>
>Hi Pavel !!
>
>> I think (not sure) somewhere before in several or your posts you have
>>said that "you believe ponder=off does not affect crafty more than any other
>>programs"
>
>Correct I posted it in one thread or another.
>
>........but from your nun1 tests it seems that crafty is playing
>>"reasonably" better with ponder=on then ponder=off.
>
>This was the case at 1/0 at 3/0, 5/0, 10/0 seems it scores less.
>Though also scoring better at 25/0.
>
>>I think the playing
>>condisions are the same except that the both programs have ponder=on in the
>>later series of matches.
>
>True but there is no way to tell if the cpu is being utilized equally by
>both Fritz and Crafty. Only way I think is two computers, I'll do it
>manually if I have to, though not too keen on the 1/0 or 2/0 LOL.
>
>> I am sorry if i missed something and posted something
>>wrong ;).
>>I know its just too small number of games to come to any conclusion. but does it
>>answer (to some extend) your question regarding "why does ponder=off effects
>>crafty?"
>
>No, I still believe other programs are equally hurt by ponder=off but maybe
>Crafty has better cpu utilization or something....just a theory.
>
>>thanks for some great games
>>greetings from
>>pavel :)
>
>Welcome Pavel.
>
>>ps, my english is not so good sorry about that.
>
>It's ok it's much better than my any other language :-)
>
>Thanks.
Hi sarrah!!!
Is there anyway to autoplay using two identical computers (running
crafty on one and fritz on another).Making crafty play on winboard, making it
use its default opening book (from bob's ftp).On the other computer fritz on its
GUI, with its default opening book (general.ctg??). with ponder on. lerning on,
and also tablebases on!!!(for both programs). I am interested in this because as
far as i know SSDf is using crafty under the the fritz interface to play its
games. Which i believe is not the right condition for crafty in MOST sense.
Probably you know that too, that crafty cannot use its own opening book in fritz
interface, not to mention it can not even have its "usual" position and book
learning. I think its sad for any programmer to see that his program is not
running the way it was built to. Crafty was built to play under winboard or in
text mode. so naturally the question come "is fritz interface gives the same
advantage to the program as the winboard does?".......i believe the answers in
"no". I think fritz interface gives fritz an "upper hand" against the "foreighn"
programs just like ponder=off gives other programs upper hand against crafty.
just my theory.......i dont have to be right.....i may be wrong.......but what i
am saying makes sense :). i think the fritz interface is not yet approved widely
as much as winboard is, and thus it is inadequate to have games (SSDF games) of
such high importance to be played under this interface. What do you think?
thanks for your thoughts about the topic
greetings from
pavel :)
ps, sorry again about the language......i have planned to write this piece in
every posts......since some people over here doesnt seem to like the way i
write. Its "so bad" that even the moderator writes to me and tells me to improve
my language :) LOL. (true)
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