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Subject: Re: Crafty 17-10 v Fritz 6a ponder=on Single cpu

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 12:36:59 04/28/00

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On April 28, 2000 at 14:17:01, Chessfun wrote:

>On April 28, 2000 at 14:11:18, pavel wrote:
>
>>On April 28, 2000 at 13:59:38, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>All games on one Cel 433.
>>>Ponder=on.
>>>Tablebases used at 25 and longer.
>>>Nunn 1 positions.
>>>No opening books are loaded.
>>>
>>> 1 min game    Fritz 6a 10.0 - 10.0 Crafty 17-10
>>> 2 min game    Fritz 6a 12.0 -  8.0 Crafty 17-10
>>> 3 min game    Fritz 6a 16.5 -  3.5 Crafty 17-10
>>> 5 min game    Fritz 6a 16.0 -  4.0 Crafty 17-10
>>>10 min game    Fritz 6a 15.0 -  5.0 Crafty 17-10
>>>25 min game    Fritz 6a 12.0 -  8.0 Crafty 17-10
>>>60 min game    Fritz 6a      -      Crafty 17-10 Unplayed
>>>Tourney times  Fritz 6a      -      Crafty 17-10 Unplayed
>>>
>>>As I said in the original thread and others I don't
>>>think cpu utilization is equal but figured since I played
>>>the other two matches out 10 and 25 I would post the score.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>hi sarah!!
>>          the cpu utilization not being equal is not anyone's fault. If it is
>>the case then all that can be said is "crafty has a better code for such case,or
>>fritz has a bad code for such case". but to tell the truth, if you think about
>>it, its more or less the same as "crafty not having a better code for
>>ponder=off......where as fritz having a better code, thus making crafty more
>>likely to affect on ponder=off games" just my thoughts.
>
>
>I can't see it that way. If ponder=off then when it is the turn to move
>the program has full cpu utilization. With ponder=on on one cpu it is likely
>that one of any two programs will take more than 50%. There are others far
>more qualified than I to answer the cpu question I just can't see how with
>ponder=on it would ever be the same.



While I think the ponder=off experiment is a valid one (at least to see how
program strength varies with time controls), I have doubts about ponder=on on
one CPU.

If you can, I would suggest you use 2 computers. But if you do not have 2
identical computers, ponder=on on one CPU will maybe tell us something too...



    Christophe




>>I have discussed more about this on the other thread that we were having before.
>>thanks again for great test :)
>>pavel
>
>Welcome again :-)
>
>>
>>ps, pls dont think i am keeping on repling your post because i like to pull your
>>legs ;0
>>its just that i like to discuss on the current issue ;).....and is as much as
>>interested on it as you are.
>>as always sorry for my english ;0
>
>It is a good subject matter I think.
>Interesting at least the ponder=on or ponder=off subject.
>As usual don't worry about your English !!.
>
>Thanks.



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