Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:12:44 04/28/00
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On April 28, 2000 at 12:11:46, pavel wrote:
>On April 27, 2000 at 18:21:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 27, 2000 at 15:32:29, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>On April 27, 2000 at 14:48:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 27, 2000 at 11:11:29, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>There were 4 games won on time all won by Crafty.
>>>>>
>>>>>2 at 1 minute
>>>>>1 at 2 minute
>>>>>1 at 10 minute
>>>>>
>>>>>It is likely that 2 of these would have been Crafty wins
>>>>>2 would have been drawn.
>>>>>
>>>>>The two shortest games in terms of # of moves were funny
>>>>>enough at Tourney times both won by F6a.
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "120'/40+60'/20+30'"]
>>>>>[Site "Scarb"]
>>>>>[Date "2000.04.25"]
>>>>>[Round "4"]
>>>>>[White "Fritz 6"]
>>>>>[Black "Crafty 17.10"]
>>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>>[ECO "B89"]
>>>>>[PlyCount "50"]
>>>>>[EventDate "2000.??.??"]
>>>>>
>>>>>{W=12.1 ply; 299kN/s B=11.0 ply; 200kN/s} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4.
>>>>>Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bc4 e6 7. Be3 a6 8. Qe2 Qc7 9. O-O-O Be7 10. Bb3 O-O {
>>>>>Both last book move} 11. Nxc6 {-0.12/12 232} 11... bxc6 {0.08/11 242} 12. h4 {
>>>>>(Bg5) -0.19/12 338} 12... d5 {-0.10/12 240} 13. h5 {(f3) -0.34/11 155} 13...
>>>>>Bb4 {-0.12/11 310} 14. h6 {0.00/12 234} 14... Bxc3 {(g6) 0.00/10 523} 15. hxg7
>>>>>{0.13/11 44} 15... Re8 {(Bxb2+) 0.36/10 255} 16. bxc3 {0.44/12 417} 16... Qe5 {
>>>>>0.47/11 225} 17. Rh6 {(f3) 0.34/11 149} 17... dxe4 {(Nxe4) 0.42/10 262} 18.
>>>>>Rdh1 {(Qc4) 0.88/12 264} 18... c5 {1.13/12 224} 19. Qd2 {1.47/13 376} 19... Bb7
>>>>>{(Ra7) 2.18/12 749} 20. Bxc5 {1.50/12 77} 20... Qxc5 {1.70/11 280} 21. Rxf6 {
>>>>>3.34/12 62} 21... e3 {1.70/10 194} 22. Qd3 {3.47/12 98} 22... h5 {3.91/9 311}
>>>>>23. Rh6 {4.25/11 97} 23... f5 {6.62/10 1128} 24. Rxe6 {5.84/10 79} 24... Bd5 {
>>>>>7.41/9 357} 25. Qxf5 {(Bxd5) 8.09/11 85} 25... Bxe6 {7.97/10 123} 1-0
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "120'/40+60'/20+30'"]
>>>>>[Site "Scarb"]
>>>>>[Date "2000.04.25"]
>>>>>[Round "6"]
>>>>>[White "Fritz 6"]
>>>>>[Black "Crafty 17.10"]
>>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>>[ECO "C19"]
>>>>>[PlyCount "46"]
>>>>>[EventDate "2000.??.??"]
>>>>>
>>>>>{W=12.7 ply; 316kN/s B=12.3 ply; 121kN/s} 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 c5
>>>>>5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Qc7 7. Nf3 Ne7 8. a4 b6 9. Bb5+ Bd7 10. Bd3 Nbc6 11. O-O {
>>>>>Both last book move} 11... O-O {0.21/12 242} 12. Re1 {0.06/13 758} 12... c4 {
>>>>>(Rfb8) 0.28/11 481} 13. Bxh7+ {(Bf1) 1.47/15 148} 13... Kxh7 {2.52/12 257} 14.
>>>>>Ng5+ {1.47/13 65} 14... Kg6 {2.52/12 231} 15. h4 {1.47/12 44} 15... Rh8 {
>>>>>2.58/11 370} 16. Qg4 {1.75/13 77} 16... f5 {3.02/13 225} 17. exf6 {1.78/12 56}
>>>>>17... e5 {3.68/12 639} 18. Ne6+ {1.75/11 51} 18... Kxf6 {3.68/12 207} 19. dxe5+
>>>>>{2.38/12 103} 19... Nxe5 {3.96/12 207} 20. Qxg7+ {2.28/12 82} 20... Kxe6 {
>>>>>3.96/12 207} 21. Bg5 {3.72/12 114} 21... d4 {5.05/11 662} 22. cxd4 {4.06/11 95}
>>>>>22... Kd5 {5.09/11 1097} 23. Rxe5+ {4.53/11 58} 23... Kc6 {5.83/12 132} 1-0
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Note that crafty will _never_ lose on time... unless you have hash set too
>>>>high to make it page so badly it can't finish any kind of search at all. But
>>>>that doesn't mean it won't get real short on time in lots of games. But it is
>>>>quite capable of playing game/1sec games, as I do this as a stress-test of
>>>>everything.
>>>
>>>If you read carefully the post of chessfun you can see that
>>>Fritz lost on time and not Crafty.
>>>
>>>The games that were posted are not the games won on time but the shortest games
>>>and they are connected with the 2 lines before the games and not with the
>>>beginning of the post.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>I understood that. I was pointing out that the 'weakening' I see in crafty is
>>not revealed in the guise of losing on time. That will never happen unless the
>>game is sudden death and the opponent is _very_ fast.
>>
>>I wanted to be sure that if he was looking for crafty to lose on time, due to
>>time mismanagement, he wasn't going to see it manifest itself like that. The
>>thing to look at is what is happening around move 40 in a 40/2hr time control.
>>That is where the most serious problems occur.... somewhere near the boundary
>>of the next time control...
>>
>>Sorry I wasn't very clear about my response...
>
>bob,
> I think you made a mistake Chessfun is not a "he" she is "she" :)
>ouch ;0
>greetings
>pavel ;)
I knew that. I actually thought I had typed 'she'. A consequence of quick
typing. :)
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