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Subject: Re: Crafty 17-10 v Fritz 6a ponder=on Single cpu

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 22:02:29 04/28/00

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On April 28, 2000 at 23:39:10, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On April 28, 2000 at 09:41:29, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On April 28, 2000 at 09:21:59, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>
>>>On April 28, 2000 at 08:59:27, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>All games on one Cel 433.
>>>>Ponder=on.
>>>>Tablebases used at 25 and longer.
>>>>Nunn 1 positions.
>>>>No opening books are loaded.
>>>>
>>>> 1 min game    Fritz 6a 10.0 - 10.0 Crafty 17-10
>>>> 2 min game    Fritz 6a 12.0 -  8.0 Crafty 17-10
>>>> 3 min game    Fritz 6a 16.5 -  3.5 Crafty 17-10
>>>> 5 min game    Fritz 6a 16.0 -  4.0 Crafty 17-10
>>>>10 min game    Fritz 6a      -      Crafty 17-10 running
>>>>25 min game    Fritz 6a  7.0 -  6.0 Crafty 17-10 Current score
>>>>60 min game    Fritz 6a      -      Crafty 17-10 Unplayed
>>>>Tourney times  Fritz 6a      -      Crafty 17-10 Unplayed
>>>>
>>>>These results seem to be all over.
>>>
>>>Since you are using one machine and ponder on, each engine gets 50% of CPU time
>>>and therefore you should compare these results with the ponder off results at
>>>half the time. 2 minutes game ponder on compared to 1 minute game ponder off,
>>>etc.
>
>No. Pondering doesn't just affect the time so linearly.  There are a lot of
>factors.
>
>>>There is still the question of the CPU time being allocated properly. I wonder
>>>if we are proving anything like this.
>>
>>
>>I think ponder=on on one cpu just don't work.
>>IMHO that is :-)
>
>As long as both programs are getting 50% of the CPU, it's (roughly) the same as
>a ponder-on match on 2 machines at half the time control.


It is really like a ponder-on match on 2 machines at about 3/4 of the time
control.  Programs will use 50% of their total time properly.  They will use
the other 50% of their total time for pondering, but roughly 50% of that will
be useful, 50% will be lost due to incorrect pondering.

A game in 1 minute ponder=on is probably pretty close to game in 45 seconds,
ponder=off.



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