Author: Ernst Walet
Date: 22:55:32 04/28/00
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On April 28, 2000 at 18:31:00, Ed Schröder wrote: >On April 28, 2000 at 15:20:52, Ernst Walet wrote: > >>This is what Shredder4 thinks about it. Although the score is dropping, it >>still would play Rebel´s move after 15 minutes (PIII-450, 128MB hash). >> >>Ernst. >> >> >> 7.01 0:02.53 +0.37 gxf5 exf5 Qd7 Ng5 d5 Bd2 h6 Nf3 (192.209) 75.8 >> 7 -> 0:03.53 +0.37 gxf5 exf5 Qd7 Ng5 d5 Bd2 h6 Nf3 (281.386) 79.5 >> 8.01 0:08.15 +0.33 gxf5 exf5 Qd7 Ng5 Qb7 Qh3 Bd7 Be3 (657.746) 80.6 >> 8 -> 0:10.33 +0.33 gxf5 exf5 Qd7 Ng5 Qb7 Qh3 Bd7 Be3 (846.185) 81.8 >> 9.01 0:35.75 +0.34 gxf5 exf5 Ba4 b3 Bd7 Ng5 Qc8 Ng3 h6 Nf3 (2.996.622) >>83.8 >> 9 -> 0:41.03 +0.34 gxf5 exf5 Ba4 b3 Bd7 Ng5 Qc8 Ng3 h6 Nf3 (3.465.402) >>84.4 >>10.01 1:37.23 +0.09-- gxf5 exf5 Ba4 Ne1 Nd5 Bh6 Bxh6 Qxh6 b3 axb3 c4 Rxa4 >>(8.090.297) 83.2 >>10.01 2:03.83 +0.09 gxf5 exf5 Qd7 Ng3 Ba4 c4 bxc3 Nh5 cxb2 Qxf6 bxa1Q Qxg7+ >>Qxg7 (10.417.524) 84.1 >>10 -> 3:18.69 +0.09 gxf5 exf5 Qd7 Ng3 Ba4 c4 bxc3 Nh5 cxb2 Qxf6 bxa1Q Qxg7+ >>(16.442.387) 82.7 >>11.01 6:06.69 0.00 gxf5 exf5 Qd7 Ng3 Bxf3 Rxf3 Nd5 Nh5 Bd4+ Kh1 a5 Qe4 e6 >>fxe6 (30.096.440) 82.0 >>11 -> 14:57.32 0.00 gxf5 exf5 Qd7 Ng3 Bxf3 Rxf3 Nd5 Nh5 Bd4+ Kh1 a5 Qe4 e6 >>(72.849.984) 81.1 > >My latest version needs 30 minutes to change its mind from gxf5 >to Qb6 and 3 minutes later to e5 which seems to me the best defending >move in this position. Anybody understands why programs tend to gxf5? >The move weakens the king pawn shelter any I am pretty sure all programs >have a (huge?) penalty for that. So there must be a reason why this move >is favored. What's the angle? > >Ed I let Shredder4 think overnight at the position after gxf5, and it still sees no real danger, although the score is rising for white. Ernst. 7.01 0:01.59 -0.34 exf5 Qd7 Ng5 Rad8 Be3 h6 Nf3 (141.559) 89.0 7 -> 0:02.51 -0.34 exf5 Qd7 Ng5 Rad8 Be3 h6 Nf3 (232.999) 92.5 8.01 0:06.38 -0.26 exf5 Qd7 Ng5 Qb7 Qh3 Bd7 Be3 (567.290) 88.9 8 -> 0:09.70 -0.26 exf5 Qd7 Ng5 Qb7 Qh3 Bd7 Be3 (883.687) 91.0 9.01 0:24.67 -0.27 exf5 Ba4 Ne1 Qb6 Bh6 c4+ Rf2 Bxh6 Qxh6 (2.199.183) 89.1 9 -> 0:34.26 -0.27 exf5 Ba4 Ne1 Qb6 Bh6 c4+ Rf2 Bxh6 Qxh6 (3.105.375) 90.6 10.01 1:37.58 -0.08 exf5 Qd7 Ng3 Bxf3 Rxf3 d5 Bh6 Bxh6 (8.723.093) 89.3 10 -> 1:57.58 -0.08 exf5 Qd7 Ng3 Bxf3 Rxf3 d5 Bh6 Bxh6 (10.697.946) 90.9 11.01 3:32.19 -0.13 exf5 Qd7 Ng3 Bxf3 Rxf3 Nd5 Qg4 Kh8 Kh1 Bd4 Qg5 Rac8 (18.905.596) 89.0 11.03 5:04.65 -0.12++ Bh6 fxe4 Ng5 Qb6 Bxg7 c4+ d4 e6 Rxf6 e5 Bxf8 (27.510.272) 90.2 11.03 7:54.25 +0.23++ Bh6 fxe4 Ng5 Qb6 Bxg7 c4+ d4 e6 Rxf6 e5 (43.319.684) 91.3 11.03 12:37.82 +0.35 Bh6 Bd7 Ng3 Bxh6 Qxh6 Ng4 Qg5+ Kh8 exf5 Rg8 Qf4 Qb6 (69.711.417) 91.9 11 -> 12:47.77 +0.35 Bh6 Bd7 Ng3 Bxh6 Qxh6 Ng4 Qg5+ Kh8 exf5 Rg8 Qf4 Qb6 (70.641.350) 92.0 12.01 26:00.34 +0.42 Bh6 Bxh6 Qxh6 Ng4 Qh5 e6 exf5 exf5 Ng3 Bd7 Nxf5 Bxf5 Qxf5 Ne3 (144.754.130) 92.7 12 -> 26:31.20 +0.42 Bh6 Bxh6 Qxh6 Ng4 Qh5 e6 exf5 exf5 Ng3 Bd7 Nxf5 Bxf5 Qxf5 Ne3 (147.556.268) 92.7 13.01 50:44.62 +0.44 Bh6 Bxh6 Qxh6 Ng4 Qh5 Rc8 Ng5 Nf6 Qh6 Nxe4 dxe4 f6 exf5 fxg5 Qxg5+ Kh8 (283.283.065) 93.0 13 -> 53:30.43 +0.44 Bh6 Bxh6 Qxh6 Ng4 Qh5 Rc8 Ng5 Nf6 Qh6 Nxe4 dxe4 f6 exf5 fxg5 Qxg5+ Kh8 (298.174.524) 92.8 14.01 138:21.73 +0.46 Bh6 Bxh6 Qxh6 Ng4 Qh5 Bd7 Ng5 Nf6 Qh6 Nxe4 dxe4 fxe4 (796.367.656) 95.9 14.05 228:44.95 +0.47++ Ng3 fxe4 Ng5 h6 Nf5 exd3 Nf3 dxc2 Bxh6 Bxh6 (1285.130.751) 93.6 14.05 269:40.59 +0.47 Ng3 e6 Bg5 h6 Bxh6 Nxe4 Bxg7 Qxh4 Rae1 Kxg7 Rxe4 (1510.846.547) 93.3 14 -> 270:42.15 +0.47 Ng3 e6 Bg5 h6 Bxh6 Nxe4 Bxg7 Qxh4 Rae1 Kxg7 Rxe4 (1516.433.015) 93.3 15.01 371:09.72 +0.53 Ng3 e6 Bg5 h6 Bxh6 Ng4 Bxg7 Qxh4 Nxh4 Kxg7 Rae1 fxe4 (2055.637.643) 92.3 15 -> 405:43.67 +0.53 Ng3 e6 Bg5 h6 Bxh6 Ng4 Bxg7 Qxh4 Nxh4 Kxg7 Rae1 fxe4 (-2046512780) -84.0
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