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Subject: Re: Question for the chess gurus

Author: Colin Frayn

Date: 02:18:51 04/29/00

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On April 28, 2000 at 12:36:55, Dann Corbit wrote:

>I was watching some chess engines play last night, and this position came up:
>8/4kp1p/4p3/1b1pP1P1/prpP1P2/5K2/1P1R4/3B4 b - -
>
>To my abject horror, the side to move did not play c3
>
>My question is, did black throw away a win, or are my instincts just wrong
>again?

ColChess thinks the following; (all scores given are, as usual, improvements
from the current position, not absolute scores)

Current Position
----------------
. . . . . . . .
. . . . k p . p      pP=Pawn
. . . . p . . .      rR=Rook
. b . p P . P .      nN=Knight     lower=Black
p r p P . P . .      bB=Bishop      CAPS=White
. . . . . K . .      qQ=Queen
. P . R . . . .      kK=King
. . . B . . . .

Thinking [16 Moves]
Current Position=1.97
{L2} :::::::: B5 - C6 (-0.02)   Nodes=565  Eval=278  [0.02s]
{L3} :::::::: B5 - C6 (0.10)    Nodes=1426  Eval=606  [0.05s]
{L4} :::::::: B5 - C6 (0.08)    Nodes=6730  Eval=1778  [0.11s]
{L5} :::::::: B5 - C6 (0.08)    Nodes=21870  Eval=7224  [0.43s]
{L6} :::::::: B5 - D7 (0.02)    Nodes=113412  Eval=31059  [1.77s]
{L7} :::::::: B5 - D7 (0.02)    Nodes=244807  Eval=72187  [4.84s]
{L8} :::::::: B5 - D7 (0.01)    Nodes=695410  Eval=173544  [12.05s]
{L9} :::::::: B5 - C6 (-0.03)   Nodes=4882047  Eval=1245494  [64.38s]
{L10} :::::::: E7 - F8 (-0.03)   Nodes=63618867  Eval=19726029  [903.3s]
15 Minutes, 3 Seconds
Nodes=69585134  Eval=21258199
Table Hits=1296864  [310689 Entries]

PV : e7f8 d2h2  b5c6 f3g4  c6d7 g4f3  d7c6 f3e3  f8g8 h2e2


...though it didn't search deep enough to pick up a3 if that is indeed the best
move.  However, it never did choose c3. :)

After black plays c3, it thinks....

Current Position
----------------
. . . . . . . .
. . . . k p . p      pP=Pawn
. . . . p . . .      rR=Rook
. b . p P . P .      nN=Knight     lower=Black
p r . P . P . .      bB=Bishop      CAPS=White
. . p . . K . .      qQ=Queen
. P . R . . . .      kK=King
. . . B . . . .

Thinking [19 Moves]
Current Position=-2.61
{L2} :::::::::. B2 x C3 (5.40)    Nodes=557  Eval=132  [0.01s]
{L3} :::::::::. B2 x C3 (2.35)    Nodes=1389  Eval=527  [0.04s]
{L4} :::::::::. B2 x C3 (2.21)    Nodes=6896  Eval=1557  [0.13s]
{L5} :::::::::. B2 x C3 (2.41)    Nodes=14407  Eval=4526  [0.40s]
{L6} :::::::::. B2 x C3 (2.34)    Nodes=69381  Eval=15116  [1.18s]
{L7} :::::::::. B2 x C3 (2.33)    Nodes=139592  Eval=38498  [3.33s]
{L8} :::::::::. B2 x C3 (2.40)    Nodes=619812  Eval=129157  [10.08s]
{L9} :::::::::. B2 x C3 (1.98)    Nodes=1037974  Eval=277698  [25.25s]
25.2 Seconds - D'oh
Nodes=1890008  Eval=467211
Table Hits=66943  [52964 Entries]

PV : b2c3 b4b1  d1c2 b1b2  f3e3 a4a3  f4f5 e6f5  c2f5

...so it looks like c3 loses 2 pawns worth whereas the other moves chosen (to
the depth searched) lose virtually nothing.

Cheers,
Colin



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