Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:33:00 04/29/00
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On April 29, 2000 at 07:51:05, Brian Richardson wrote: >On April 28, 2000 at 22:17:09, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 28, 2000 at 17:54:32, Brian Richardson wrote: >> >>>Occasionally Tinker gets matched in an unrated game on ICC. This is not usually >>>a problem, but recently a user (Diamond) has been playing numerous unrated games >>>against many programs at standard time controls. >>> >>>I am curious because I have useformula=1, rated=1, formula=rated &... and >>>manualaccept=1 settings, so I am wondering why it does not decline them (before >>>even getting to Winboard)? >> >> >>there is a trick to bypass formula, if you do it before the formula is set. >>I just match you unrated, before you decide to stop playing unrated games. I >>play, and then win or lose, I just type 'rematch'. This ignores your formula >>since you just finished a game, and the server assumes "if you played one game >>in violation of your formula, you are willing to play another." >> >>All he has to do is play a couple, then adjourn in the middle, then resume it >>tomorrow and continue this... day after day... If you watch an notice him >>win or lose a game, try +noplay right after the game ends. The next day, >>remove the noplay although he will now have to go by the formula and can't >>play unrated any more. > >Thank you for the quick reply. I am not 100% sure what you mean by "before the >formula is set". I very rarely change the "set formula = rated...". So an >unrated game should not get started after a rated game (even against a different >opponent?) with the same formula, right? Or, might you mean "set" as in parsed >and tested by the ICC server for each opponent? I'm thinking this is rather >unlikely, but perhaps with the manualaccept (to allow zippymaxgames or other >zippy options), Winboard just accepts in rare cases before the ICC server >declines. Normally there are numerous automatic declines where the message >cites the formula. In any case, there is always "noplay", but I really prefer >not to. > The 'hole' is not one that happens after you have had your formula set. It gets started _before_ you decide you don't want to play unrated games and modify your formula. IE once I have a game in progress, if you decide to change your formula during an adjournment, obviously the formula can't prevent us from finishing the game. And once it is finished, a 'remat' will work even if your formula says no unrated games, because ICC assumes that if you would play one game in violation of your formula, you would play more. >Incidentally, with zippynoplaycrafty (until Tinker is even close to >competitive), the noplay list with just Crafty clones has gotten rather long: > AnatKarp DrVigilante KillerGrob MysticWarrior TolkienX > BoeserOnkel egghead KyFats poodledough undertaker1 > Brause Eza Mashiach SuperChicken Weezer > did Feisty MrPeabody TITANS That is a very small subset of the crafty clone club. :)
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