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Subject: Re: What makes Junior so good?

Author: Eran

Date: 08:31:09 04/29/00

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On April 28, 2000 at 10:07:47, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On April 28, 2000 at 09:42:19, Eran wrote:
>
>>On April 27, 2000 at 22:48:46, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>On April 27, 2000 at 21:37:26, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 27, 2000 at 16:00:38, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>People say that junior 6a is not tactically the greatest, and no one seems to
>>>>>agree that it is the best knowledge program either! Yet it is possibly the most
>>>>>succesful program (against other computers) and at worsed second best.
>>>>>In Iraqouzis tournament some time ago, it looked way better than its closest
>>>>>rivals.So if not knowledge or tactics, then what makes it so great? something
>>>>>else?
>>>>> And I wouldn't agree it has been tested properly against humans yet either.
>>>>>Against humans I think it needs much more testing than against other programs,
>>>>>since humans are moving objects. Some programs might be psychologically more
>>>>>tricky for humans but not stronger against them necesarily.Until-of course the
>>>>>human is used to it.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not seeing many replies. Does that mean to say "It's not"?
>>>
>>>All I could come up with was a snide remark like "spit shine", I figured
>>>everyone could do without it.  If I decide to buy another program, Junior would
>>>be at the top of my list.  I'm not very concerned with the tests.
>>>
>>>Pete
>>
>>Well, I heard that Junior6 still does not have underpromotion code.
>
>It does.
>
>> Therefore,
>>it is not state-of-the-art.
>
>It is.
>
>Enrique
>
>> I mean it is not a complete thing. Don't you care
>>buying it anyway?! I won't buy it unless it has underpromotion code. It is
>>always worth buying any excellent chess software if it is state-of-the-art,
>>right?
>>
>>I bought Junior5 about two years ago and I was disappointed because of no
>>underpromotion code.
>>
>>Eran


I am sorry if I said it. Okay I believe you that Junior6 has underpromotion code
and that's wonderful. Maybe I will consider buying it. Does Junior6 consume
hashtable memory as large as fritz does? Is having large hashtable memory
important for Junior6? Is 40 MB hashtable enough for 40/120 games?

Eran




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