Author: Chessfun
Date: 20:05:06 05/01/00
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On May 01, 2000 at 18:44:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 01, 2000 at 10:11:51, Mogens Larsen wrote: > >>On May 01, 2000 at 09:32:07, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>It isn't like the Nunn test itself doesn't skew results, remember. IE the >>>opening book of the engine is eliminated, which means all the book learning >>>of the engine is eliminated. Now other forms of learning are eliminated. This >>>doesn't exactly sound like a "useful test". IE would it be interesting to take >>>two automobiles, remove one spark plug from each, drain the transmission on >>>both cars... (wait, one car doesn't have a transmission, just a direct drive, >>>oh well, drain the other) and so forth. >> >>I agree with you most of the way, even though I'm trying to be less >>confrontational (fat chance) :o). What is your take on the one or two machine >>issue with ponder off. Will the autoplay feature (and various other differences >>from one to two computers) of two computers with ponder on, skew the comparison >>with one machine and ponder off? And if yes, how significant would it be? If >>not, be gentle about my ignorance :o). > >I believe that ponder=on and ponder=off are two different things. I don't >know how it will affect the results, because I don't spend any time testing >against anyone with ponder=off. But I do know that ponder=off is _not_ tested >very well in my code because I consider it pointless to use it except for >testing/debugging. If it affects others like it does me, then perhaps the >games are 'valid'. If they have tested ponder=off to any degree, then the >tests are not valid. > > > >> >>I must admit that the purpose of the test is starting to allude me as well, but >>maybe I'm just not paying attention. >> >>Best wishes... >>Mogens > > >I think a lot of the 'testing' is all about trying to prove that Crafty can't >play chess. IE you start out with a conclusion, then you try to find a way to >make that conclusion happen... Definately not....not if you refer to mine. Mine started out seeing whether.....to my own satisfaction Crafty could beat F6a with ponder=off as I doubted it could. There then came posts about ponder=on so I then decided to test after with ponder=on. Crafty is rated in the top five at the SSDF how can anyone try to prove "Crafty can't play chess"....this is bunk. Thanks.
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