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Subject: Re: Crafty 17-10 v Fritz 6a Two machines Nunn 1 @ 5 mins ?

Author: Chessfun

Date: 20:16:38 05/01/00

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On May 01, 2000 at 21:52:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 01, 2000 at 19:20:46, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>On May 01, 2000 at 18:44:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>I believe that ponder=on and ponder=off are two different things.  I don't
>>>know how it will affect the results, because I don't spend any time testing
>>>against anyone with ponder=off.  But I do know that ponder=off is _not_ tested
>>>very well in my code because I consider it pointless to use it except for
>>>testing/debugging.  If it affects others like it does me, then perhaps the
>>>games are 'valid'.  If they have tested ponder=off to any degree, then the
>>>tests are not valid.
>>
>>Thanks for your answers. I can't promise not to use ponder off, but this is due
>>to my hardware. However, I'll promise that I won't bother you with statements
>>like: Crafty isn't that strong with ponder off :o).
>>
>>>I think a lot of the 'testing' is all about trying to prove that Crafty can't
>>>play chess.  IE you start out with a conclusion, then you try to find a way to
>>>make that conclusion happen...
>>
>>I didn't think that at first, but when information like the exclusion of
>>learning and the selectivity of results starts to appear, I'm getting suspicious
>>too.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>Mogens
>
>
>Or comments like "It lost 5-15, that is about what I expected."  But then
>"it won 12-8, so something must be wrong, I'll look further."
>
>that sort of 'says it all', IMHO.


Then Dr. you should read posts more carefully before quoting IMHO:
Assuming you are refering to my posts, if not kindly post which
posts makes that statement.

The actual posts I posted read and I quote from post:
http://site2936.dellhost.com/forums/1/message.shtml?108521

"I happened to let 5/0 run through the night.
As a result it looped through and played 5/0 twice.

In the second set of 20 games the score was:
 5 min game    Fritz 6a 9.0 - 11.0 Crafty 17-10
I am not sure what to make of it.

All games posted have been checked and a few of the
moves checked on the opposite computer everything checks
out ok."

Then in post:
http://site2936.dellhost.com/forums/1/message.shtml?108559

I wrote:

"I think I need to clear before starting any new match.
I restarted both after the 10/0 games and then got the same
score. Re-ran the 5/0 after restart and again got the same
score 15-5 to Fritz."

Thanks.






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