Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:28:46 05/01/00
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On May 01, 2000 at 23:16:38, Chessfun wrote: >On May 01, 2000 at 21:52:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 01, 2000 at 19:20:46, Mogens Larsen wrote: >> >>>On May 01, 2000 at 18:44:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>I believe that ponder=on and ponder=off are two different things. I don't >>>>know how it will affect the results, because I don't spend any time testing >>>>against anyone with ponder=off. But I do know that ponder=off is _not_ tested >>>>very well in my code because I consider it pointless to use it except for >>>>testing/debugging. If it affects others like it does me, then perhaps the >>>>games are 'valid'. If they have tested ponder=off to any degree, then the >>>>tests are not valid. >>> >>>Thanks for your answers. I can't promise not to use ponder off, but this is due >>>to my hardware. However, I'll promise that I won't bother you with statements >>>like: Crafty isn't that strong with ponder off :o). >>> >>>>I think a lot of the 'testing' is all about trying to prove that Crafty can't >>>>play chess. IE you start out with a conclusion, then you try to find a way to >>>>make that conclusion happen... >>> >>>I didn't think that at first, but when information like the exclusion of >>>learning and the selectivity of results starts to appear, I'm getting suspicious >>>too. >>> >>>Sincerely, >>>Mogens >> >> >>Or comments like "It lost 5-15, that is about what I expected." But then >>"it won 12-8, so something must be wrong, I'll look further." >> >>that sort of 'says it all', IMHO. > > >Then Dr. you should read posts more carefully before quoting IMHO: >Assuming you are refering to my posts, if not kindly post which >posts makes that statement. I can read quite well. It lost the first match. No comment. It did much better in the second. "I don't know what to make of it." Do you see the difference? (a) was what you expected. No comment. (b) was not what you expected. " you don't know what to make of it..." I can read between the lines... Then you re-ran the test. Did you re-run any of the _other_ tests? Or just that one that you considered unusual? That was my point. > >The actual posts I posted read and I quote from post: >http://site2936.dellhost.com/forums/1/message.shtml?108521 > >"I happened to let 5/0 run through the night. >As a result it looped through and played 5/0 twice. > >In the second set of 20 games the score was: > 5 min game Fritz 6a 9.0 - 11.0 Crafty 17-10 >I am not sure what to make of it. > >All games posted have been checked and a few of the >moves checked on the opposite computer everything checks >out ok." > >Then in post: >http://site2936.dellhost.com/forums/1/message.shtml?108559 > >I wrote: > >"I think I need to clear before starting any new match. >I restarted both after the 10/0 games and then got the same >score. Re-ran the 5/0 after restart and again got the same >score 15-5 to Fritz." > >Thanks.
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