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Subject: Re: utilization of computer resources by chess programs!!!

Author: Chessfun

Date: 20:17:32 05/03/00

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On May 03, 2000 at 17:01:06, Chessfun wrote:

>On May 03, 2000 at 08:35:39, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On May 03, 2000 at 03:36:45, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>    there have been a recent debate like "thingie" about crafty "does better
>>>utilization of computer" then fritz (or most program). In reply to that Bob
>>>posted that it is not true , however the utilization should be allmost the same.
>>>And i believed that too. But wasnt sure about it. I downloaded this program
>>>called "taskinfo", (shareware) and i did a test on crafty and fritz running on
>>>one cpu under fritz interface. As Bob said the utilization was more or less the
>>>same, it didnt differ more than 3 to 4% for both programs. It wasnt stable once
>>>it was 4% better on fritz the other time it was 3% better on crafty. But also
>>>this differances was also very rare. the most frequent differances was .50%. So
>>>you can see (Christophe) that crafty_doesnt_utilize_more
>>>_of_the_computer_resources ;0. To be sure that its the same in all circumstances
>>>i tried it under winboard (crafty and goliath) and also used other programs
>>>(exchess,comet,TCB,chessmaster7000). and they are more or less the same.
>>>just sharing info,
>>>thanks
>>>pavel
>>>
>>>ps, thus it mean that comp vs comp games are accurate in single cpu. If we
>>>provide the same hash size, and everything else, wont it be the same for both
>>>the programs? the only differance would be that in seperate CPU, programs would
>>>play stronger, but in single cpu they might play comperably weaker.
>>
>>
>>Pavel,
>>     I have this same program.
>>
>>When running an engine v engine match the list don't show both
>>engines just the main program. The only way to see the effect is
>>to run each seperately and compare and this obviously isn't correct.
>>
>>You can right click and view all threads but assuming that in my
>>case my two engines are at the last two threads since the eng files
>>are NOT identified.
>>
>>I get a difference in cpu usage of the 3% but get spikes over 20%.
>>These spikes are particularly noticable as soon as both programs
>>leave book. Then during the game it settles down a bit but can spike at 10%.
>>
>>This is running F6...F6 and Crafty 17-10 eng v eng match
>>at 10 mins with ponder=on on both engines.
>>
>>Can you explain exactly how and where you are looking?.
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>
>Under Winboard it may be easier to see the differences as
>both engines are shown in Taskinfo2000.
>
>But running Comet v Crafty 1 hour match I get differences of
>12% in % CPU and 5% for LT % CPU. With Comet (white) taking the most.
>
>I just reversed them Crafty white and see smaller differences
>8% CPU.
>
>Though I like this Taskinfo2000 it's pretty cool.
>
>Thanks.

The above posts refer to my Cel 433 running win 98.
In my Cel win 95 it is much worse.
The fluctuations here can be 72% CPU to 19% CPU and
the average spread is much worse. What OS are you using?.

Thanks.





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