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Subject: oops, something more

Author: Antonio Dieguez

Date: 11:31:26 05/04/00

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On May 04, 2000 at 14:26:08, Antonio Dieguez wrote:

>On May 04, 2000 at 13:25:04, Steve Coladonato wrote:
>
>>On May 04, 2000 at 12:40:27, Dan Andersson wrote:
>>
>>>No you are mistaken. You are not looking at a shallow ply depth at all. It is
>>>only that by knowing the value of the best move you can discard really bad
>>>variations fast, i.e. you only need to prove that the next move cannot be better
>>>for you, not its exact value. That was the main point of the 'hole' analogy.
>>
>>Dan,
>>
>>But what is it you are looking at to determine the value of the move if it is
>>not an evaluation at various ply depths?  It seems to be a static evaluation of
>>the board similar to an arbiters decision just looking at the board.
>>
>>Also, given moves A, B, C with B the actual best move, if I start with A and
>>spend some time with it, at the end of that time, A is the best move because so
>>far it is the only one I've looked at.  Now I go to B, and using whatever it is
>>that is being used to eval these moves, I see right away that B is better.  Do I
>>now spend some additional time looking at B or do I just move right on to move
>>C?
>>
>>Steve
>
>hi
>
>The alpha beta is suppose that every side will play the best, usually in a given
>position a player moves and suppose the move A1 (the first choice) gets 20
>points for that player.
>Ok, later you see what happens moving A2 (his second choice) and you suddenly
>see that if the other player plays B1 then he eat your horse or got a very cool
>position for him or something and he get for example 300 points, so -300 points
>for the first player.
>Well you will not play A2 because you know it is worse than A1 , and obviously
>you don't know its exact value because B2 may be win a very pretty queen for the
>second player but that dont care.
>Thats on the whole tree, for both sides.
>
>am sorry 'cause my english.

I dont know if it is clear or not (i hope). Just an observation, the "alpha
beta" cut the choices, not the profundity.



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