Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 14:04:24 05/07/00
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On May 07, 2000 at 15:47:41, Mike S. wrote:
>On May 07, 2000 at 14:46:27, Jerry Adams wrote:
>
>> Am I just imagining this or is there a high number of draws between strong
>>humans and computers? Computers are appearing to be the classic draw master,
>>perhaps because they lack the creativity of the human player??
>
>The number of draws will decrease sooner or later, but until then I think that
>GM's may more often go for a draw by simplifying the position (for example: if
>queens are exchanged in an equal position, this reduces the chances to win, but
>also those to lose in general). One could have this impression from today's game
>Piket vs. Fritz if you are referring to that, but Piket was in time trouble
>(btw. should Fritz have played the strong maneuvre ...Nd3 earlier? I didn't
>analyse yet).
>
>Sometimes, when a computer program cannot reach more than a draw, it's more a
>lack of technique, than of creativity (although both term could be used for the
>same situation sometimes). See the following example from a computer game; the
>variation after 49.Qd5+ shows the simple winning idea Gnu didn't find:
>
>[D]3q2k1/3P4/1p1P4/p4Qp1/P6p/1P6/1K6/8 w - - 0 49
>
>[Event "1 min per move, P2-333 MHz"]
>[Site "Vienna"]
>[Date "1998.??.??"]
>[White "GNU Chess 3.21"]
>[Black "Mephisto Lyon 16Bit 12 MHz"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[BlackElo "2104"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "3q2k1/3P4/1p1P4/p4Qp1/P6p/1P6/1K6/8 w - - 0 49"]
>
>49. Kc2 (49. Qd5+ {White's queen has to go to either e8 or c8 to make use of the
>d-pawns; e8 is difficult to reach because of black's king - so the queen goes
>for c8:} 49... Kg7 50. Qc6 Kh6 (50... Qf6+ 51. Qc3) 51. Kc2 {Black cannot give
>check now} 51... Qf8 52. d8=Q Qxd8 53. d7+ Kh5 54. Qc8 {White has won}) 49...
>Kg7 50. Qe6 Kf8 51. Qh6+ Kf7 52.Kb2 {Draw! Gnu was still convinced to have an
>advantage here (+1055).} (52. Qh5+ {suggested by Fritz5} 52... Ke6 53. Qe8+
>{...and white would have won}) 52... Qxd7 53. Qh7+ Ke6 54. Qg6+ Ke5 55. Qxg5+
>Kxd6 56. Qxh4 Qg7+ 57. Ka2 {aborted} 1/2-1/2
>
>I'm not sure that every new top program finds 49.Qd5+ within tournament time.
>
>Regards,
>M.Scheidl
>
>Permanent Brain: http://members.surfeu.at/MScheidl
There is a big difference between Fritz SSS and this master level GNU
Program, But I do not expect anything better than a draw either from Fritz SSS
or any other top programs when it is match against a player higher than 2600.
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