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Subject: Re: Senseless: The latest versions of Fritz and Shredder are playing here...

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 22:12:35 05/07/00

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On May 07, 2000 at 05:27:03, blass uri wrote:

>On May 07, 2000 at 03:31:24, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On May 06, 2000 at 15:51:55, Marcus Kaestner wrote:
>>
>>>On the ChessBits homepage
>>>
>>>http://mitglied.tripod.de/ChessBits/index.html
>>>
>>>you can find a live game between Fritz experimental and Shredder experimental
>>
>>Fritz is no experimental version and the hardware and time control favour
>>Fritz6a very much.
>
>1)How do you know that Fritz is not experimental version?

Because the operator told so. :-)

>I looked at the times and Fritz seems to play without an opening book(otherwise
>Fritz would not use time for theory moves).

The operator, CBBTEG = ChessBaseBetaTesterErdoganGünes, used his own book.

>2)The hardware favours Fritz but if it is Fritz6a and not experimental Fritz
>then I guess that one detail favours shredder(the hash tables)
>
>Fritz is using too big hash tables for this time control so I guess that the not
>experimental version needs time to clear the hash tables between moves so the
>fact that Fritz is using 600 Mbytes is a disadvantage at 30 minutes/game.

I disagree. AFAIK Fritz uses persistant hash tables without any clearing.

>3)How do you know that fast time control favour Fritz against shredder
>experimental version?

Short time controls with hardware advantage, come on Uri, even you must see
this. ;-)
Except for Hiarcs, only fast searchers are good rapid chess players.

>The only way to know is by testing both versions.
>Do you have shredder experimental version?

I am no beta-tester.

>I think that it is wrong to assume without testing that the time control favours
>shredder only because of the fact that shredder is slower in nps.
>
>Uri

See various tournament results, it is fact that Shredder profits much from
longer time controls.




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