Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:59:28 05/08/00
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On May 08, 2000 at 14:46:24, Hans Gerber wrote: >On May 08, 2000 at 10:15:54, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>What makes this "not science"? Building the hardware was science. Writing the >>code was science. Playing him under basically the same arrangements as the >>first match was a scientifically repeatable experiment... >> >>He turned it into a free-for-all himself, by suggesting cheating. But the >>games were played between him and the computer. If he got himself into a >>mental state where he couldn't play, that was just a random scientific >>variable beyond anybody's (except his) control. > >We get closer to the point. > >We agree that he was in a state where he couldn't play his usual chess. I don't see any way to agree about that. I agree that it is _possible_. But not being inside his head, I don't know whether he was affected by this, or whether he was simply psyched because of the things he saw in game one and two. (BTW I think he was most fortunate to win game one, IMHO). > >For the sake of the argument I accept that K. brought himself into that >situation. (In real I don't believe that!) > >Now we have the crucial moment: Is a result of a match valid if one side was in >a state of mental disturbance? Sure. That is part of being a human. Otherwise we _never_ have any valid match results. I was tired. I was sick. I was depressed. I have had a long month at work and I was mentally exhausted. I had jet lag. I played too many long games in a row. etc. > >Baseline: the scientists around Hsu and Hsu himself should have prevented such >an issue. _Because_, what hat this issue to do with DEEP BLUE? How can _I_ prevent such an issue with _you_??? It is beyond _my_ control. I can take care of myself. I can't take care of you in the process. It was Kasparov's responsibility to be ready to play, with almost $1,000,000 bucks on the line. Plenty of motivation. It wasn't Hsu's job to baby him to keep his mental state in some condition conducive to playing chess... Each opponent is responsible for _himself_ and himself alone.
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