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Subject: Re: Garry still singing the same Deep Blue blues...

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:02:16 05/08/00

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On May 08, 2000 at 14:51:47, Hans Gerber wrote:

>On May 08, 2000 at 10:18:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>How would you, as a scientist, handle this?  Demand that he be injected with
>>prozac or something before each game?  Add in a bit of sedative to calm him
>>down?  I don't see how you can control your _opponent_, only yourself.
>>
>>I believe the question being asked/answered was just as I stated it.  Kasparov
>>turned things into a zoo.  Not the DB guys.
>
>Good one.
>
>But I was about something different.
>
>If your description of the past was correct, control in computerchess never was
>an issue.
>
>Now that 'you' claim to get to the top of the chessworld, you have to face that
>control of the output of the machine becomes one of the important points.


What would be the point?  Logs would mean nothing if they _wanted_ to cheat.  I
have already explained how this would happen.  Get an impartial operator to make
sure no human was involved?  Are you _sure_ there is no hidden connection from
the machine to a third party?  Are you _sure_ that the operator isn't a
'sleeper' that will help DB?

It simply isn't doable.  The technology is too complex.  And we are not even
sure that with an SMP program, that it will play the same move in the same
position every time, also a regular occurence in testing...  So how to prove
anything?  How to prevent cheating?  How to prevent it from raining when you
want to go on a picnic?



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