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Subject: Re: Garry still singing the same Deep Blue blues...

Author: Hans Gerber

Date: 13:12:52 05/08/00

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On May 08, 2000 at 16:02:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 08, 2000 at 14:51:47, Hans Gerber wrote:
>
>>On May 08, 2000 at 10:18:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>How would you, as a scientist, handle this?  Demand that he be injected with
>>>prozac or something before each game?  Add in a bit of sedative to calm him
>>>down?  I don't see how you can control your _opponent_, only yourself.
>>>
>>>I believe the question being asked/answered was just as I stated it.  Kasparov
>>>turned things into a zoo.  Not the DB guys.
>>
>>Good one.
>>
>>But I was about something different.
>>
>>If your description of the past was correct, control in computerchess never was
>>an issue.
>>
>>Now that 'you' claim to get to the top of the chessworld, you have to face that
>>control of the output of the machine becomes one of the important points.
>
>
>What would be the point?  Logs would mean nothing if they _wanted_ to cheat.  I
>have already explained how this would happen.  Get an impartial operator to make
>sure no human was involved?  Are you _sure_ there is no hidden connection from
>the machine to a third party?  Are you _sure_ that the operator isn't a
>'sleeper' that will help DB?
>
>It simply isn't doable.  The technology is too complex.  And we are not even
>sure that with an SMP program, that it will play the same move in the same
>position every time, also a regular occurence in testing...  So how to prove
>anything?  How to prevent cheating?  How to prevent it from raining when you
>want to go on a picnic?

Good one!  Someone had to tell me and Kasparov!  :)



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