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Subject: Re: Are the games available ?

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 02:13:13 10/22/97

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>Just so you quantify who "some people" are.

Quantify ? I thought qualify ?? Whatever...


>In this regard, list me as
>a "follower" not as a leader.


Where is the difference between leaders and followers ?
The one cannot live without the others, and both do not STOP anything !


>My original application asked for a
>K6/233
>machine.  After seeing alphas and PII/300's popping up everywhere, I
>decided
>that to have a fair chance, Crafty needed faster hardware.

But this is the point ! Our whole discussion was about FAIRNESS !
If ANYbody wants to be fair in a very egocentric way, ANYBODY will bring
HIS fair super-dupa-high-speed Pentiumxyz 4xx Mhz Machine or more !
Fair means : not to be fair against yourself ! Fair means always:
To be fair towards the group !
Fairness is not a term of reflexive action. It means an act into a
social group!

>  I'll happily
>play
>on "equal" hardware.

Brilliant.


>I won't happily play using "inferior" hardware.

Right !


>Why
>don't you guys get together in Paris and stop this?

How ?
Revolution ?
Kidnapping ?


> IE make it uniform
>platform.  I'm not sure what platform, but either make it *one* specific
>machine, or else drop the subject and let the event run as it has since
>the
>first WMCCC event, where anything goes so long as it is a commercially
>available microprocessor.
>
>Either change it, or put up with it.  But all the complaining is doing
>nothing but creating hard feelings and lots of posts here, while the
>original problem still remains...

1. this is a club for discussions !
Where should we post LOTS OF POST if not here ??

2. this is not complaining. This is a discussion. Without TALKING about
something in a pluralistic/democratic forum, nobody would know anything.
Talking is the first thing. You correlate/exchange your opinion with
others.
Then you can act ! If you are allowed to act.


>>Kind of silly that again this tournament is first a search for the best
>>hardware and then to the best software.
>
>the "again this tournament ..." is important.  specifically *again*.  It
>has
>gone on forever.  If enough want it stopped, make it uniform-platform
>and
>be done with it.  I'll play either way.  As is or uniform.

You cannot relate the OLD champioships with the championships today.
In the old times, BIG COMPANIES leaded the championships. They had
SPECIAL hardware and they were unable to change the hardware.
Today we have PC's !
Many programs run on a pc. So it should be senseful to give the
PC-programs an equal hardware platform.

In the old times this was much more difficult with some programs using
the 6502 in assembler, others the 68000 and other companies the 1806 and
z80A.




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