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Subject: Re: More and More Plies

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 23:08:01 05/09/00

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On May 10, 2000 at 01:59:57, Michael Neish wrote:

>
>>Consider two programs which both reach 9 plies searched, but one has quiescent
>>search, SEE, and various extensions and the other does not.  Again, the
>>definition is misleading.  I would like to see a definition like this:
>>1.  minply {due to NULL-move, etc) is the shallowest actual search depth (IOW
>>brute force depth)
>>2.  aveply {is the actual search depth with assumption that NULL move or
>>whatever pruning mechanism is sound}
>>3.  maxply {due to extensions, quiescent search, etc} is the maximum depth
>>actually visited.
>
>I see, so you're saying that some programs might be measuring different things
>... I didn't think of that.  I would have expected the number of times that
>Search() had been called iteratively as the definition of ply depth, and assumed
>everyone was doing the same.
>
>I remember playing Hiarcs against a (non-commercial) program that was searching
>about twice as deep and still got smashed.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mike.

The "value" of a ply differs for each program. It "mainly" has to do with
extensions although other things are important also. If a program extends
many moves it will produce a lower ply depth than a program that uses few
extensions. This is just one example.

Ed



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