Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:15:41 10/22/97
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On October 22, 1997 at 05:22:37, Thorsten Czub wrote: >>Well, sorry if it creates hard feelings. Don't get the idea that you are >>being picked out, but there's a reason: >> >>1. Two years ago there was no forum to discuss this openly. So everybody >>just moaned and griped to their friends. Some took action which was >>never made clear or apparent. For example, Thorsten has always >>complained that SSDF never tested Hiarcs on fast PC's in SWeden after >>Hiarcs won the WMCCC Munich. Maybe the SSDF didn't like the idea of >>Hiarcs winning it on a superfast Sparc ? > > >The idea is to have fair circumstances to get the best statistical data >to interpret ! >Do we want to measure the fastest hardware ? >Than there is no need to play chess. >ONE look into the operating-manual and we would know. No need to fly or >travel to PARIS. >We could fax David Levy all our machines operating-manuals and he >declares >the winner of the championship by looking which one has the fastest >hardware. > I'm only going to ask you to do this one time: "please pick one side of the fence and stay there." You also waded into the great NPS debate. And NPS did *not* count according to you. *now* you have changed your mind to "NPS is important if the two programs are otherwise reasonably close in knowledge and so forth?" If you have changed your mind, please explain why. If you have not, then plese remove your own post as it is contrary to what you believe... >> >>2. Last year the machine detail wouldn't have counted. The fight was >>over higher moral issues of genocide etc. >> >>3. This year, we have the forum, hardware advantage is the major issue; >>therefore it gets discussed. You two guys are here discussing and you >>two guys are using 750 TeraHertz. So you two guys get to take the heat. >>Basically you two guys should stop griping and trying to close the >>discussion: you want a tournament winning advantage ? Well then, defend >>yourselves from those who you have disadvantaged. >> > >Right. If we cannot discuss it in words, how should we ACT in other ways >? >Using guns to fight it out ? No. We have to talk about it. >In an open forum. > >>>>Certainly there will be another way to associate programs and hardware >>>>in some other kind of competition. >> >>I hope so.
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