Author: Albert Silver
Date: 07:54:04 05/10/00
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On May 09, 2000 at 21:56:15, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>Must I repeat that for me Hsu is responsible because he "made" the hard- and
>>>software, with others of course? My point was that a scientist had had the
>>>obligation to reflect the mentioned problems and to find solutions. If you are
>>>convinced that logfiles had no meaning for the question of cheating, then I said
>>>that Hsu should have found a form of protocol that could give us the possibility
>>>to examin that.
>>>
>
>
>That is painting with a very wide brush. As I have pointed out on multiple
>occasions, what you are asking for is impossible to provide. Within the realm
>of practical solutions. You _could_ lock DB, the operator, and Kasparov inside
>a steel vault, with no windows, no external cables, sufficient shielding to
>make certain no form of magnetic radiation could penetrate to the interior.
>
>_then_ you could be reasonable sure no outside influence was being used. But
>I don't think _anyone_ would consent to playing under such conditions. You
>could not have light in the room, unless it was battery powered, otherwise
>some sort of modulation could be used...
>
>So preventing cheating was not doable.
>
>Providing some sort of 'audit' capability is therefore not doable, by
>simple induction. If a human could influence the game, it could influence
>whatever 'log' was produced at the same time, to make the influence
>undetectable.
>
>I don't see any way to prevent such. Nor do I see any reason to spend a lot
>of time trying to prevent such. If you don't trust your opponent, don't play
>him. After all, it _is_ a "game"...
>
I was going to say as much. Why should Hsu presume he is going to be accused of
cheating and have ready evidence that he (and his team) are not? I think I will
start walking around with the purchase receipts of everything on my body so that
I can permanently prove that I didn't steal. Kasparov's only argument to back up
his ridiculous accusation was that because his PC programs never played DB's
moves, DB couldn't have either.
Albert Silver
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