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Subject: Re: Disappointment:results/comments/+naive conclusions on Bf8!please comment

Author: blass uri

Date: 08:30:24 05/10/00

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On May 10, 2000 at 10:52:19, Mark Andreoli wrote:

>
>      I would like to _thank everyone_ for helping me try to solve the mystery
>of why a lot of engines i.e. Fritz and Hiarcs etc. didn't find the _BEST_ move
>Bf8.
>( posted yesterday)
>
>      Here are some _not all_ of the results:
>
>  1. Ed Schroder found it on Rebel using an athlon 1000Mhz/EPD2DIAG?in 1:31
>  Q. Congratulations and What is an "EPD2DIAG"?
>
>  2.His Century and Century cd rom version also had success!
>
>  3. John Stanback found the move in 9 ply on Zarkov "by luck?"using one extra
>     ply in the capture/critical line!?
>
>  4. Dan Corbit had a nice conclusion that said "Bf8 was the GM move."
>   Q. I hope you test other programs and let me know the results! Thanks
>
>  5. Enrique Irazoqui found that F6a,Tiger and Nimzo 7.32 will find the move
>   after more then 10 minutes! more success!
>
>  6.Blass Uri states that Chessmaster will find it! although I am still a little
>    confused (although not totally)on _null moves_!
>
>  7. I read __all__ the comments posted by everyone and all answers seem to be
>legitimate and in great detail! my compliments
>
>
>    BUT HERE GOES: I NEED SOME _FEEDBACK_ON A FEW _NAIVE CONCLUSIONS_!? THANKS
>
>   1.I have heard time after time that "there is only one best move in any given
>position"(It makes sense /the one that wins the fastest) . In this case most of
>us agreed it was 19.Bf8! Ok my question is why
>didn't My Fritz 5 ,6 or Hiarcs find this move especially given the fact that F6
>is in the top 5 on the SSDF list?Are they weak analyzers?

For every 2 commercial programs there are positions when one is
clearly faster than the other and there are positions when the opposite happens.

Fritz,Hiarcs are weaker than Rebel,Chessmaster in the position of Bf8 but are
better than Rebel and chessmaster in other positions.

Uri



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