Author: blass uri
Date: 10:52:44 05/10/00
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On May 10, 2000 at 12:42:46, KarinsDad wrote: >On May 10, 2000 at 12:34:51, blass uri wrote: > >>On May 10, 2000 at 12:14:04, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >> >>>On May 10, 2000 at 12:09:16, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>>On May 10, 2000 at 11:30:53, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>>> >>>>>Next July, Junior will play at Dortmund, one of the strongest tournaments of the >>>>>year. Kramnik, Anand and other first rate GMs will be there too. More >>>>>information at http://www.chessbase.com/News/newsframe.htm >>>>> >>>>>Together with Ed's games and the Israeli league, we can finally get a more >>>>>precise idea of the strength of chess programs. I miss another kind of event >>>>>where programs would have to face weaker opposition, say an average of 2200 >>>>>players. Playing only high rated players can give an inflated estimate. >>>>> >>>>>Enrique >>>> >>>>Playing everyone gives realistic estimate. >>>>Playing more against 2200 players who know to play against computers(like >>>>hasidovski who drew against 3 computers) gives only a lower bound. >>> >>>In the same way that playing only very high rated players will give you a higher >>>bound. >>> >>>>I do not see a reason to assume that playing only high rated players will give >>>>an inflated estimate. >>> >>>The Elo of the elite players is supposed to be quite inflated, maybe by 50 to >>>100 points, due to the fact that they play only among themselves. When was the >>>last time that you saw Kasparov playing in a category XIII tournament? >>> >>>Enrique >> >>I do not see a proof that kasparov's rating is higher because he does not play >>against 2500-2600 players. >> >>My rating is close to 2000 and I do not think that I lost rating from my games >>playing agaisnt 1700-1800 players. >> >>Uri > >The point is that if you only play amongst the elite players, you NEVER have the >chance to lose to a player 400 points below you and lose a LOT of points. The >worse that will happen to you is that you will lose a few points to another >inflated player. > >Just go to FICS or ICC and see how ratings are inflated due to filtering who >your opponents are. ICC is not a good example because people can choose time control and choose against who they play not only based on rating and the rules also say that if you play against a player that is clearly weaker than you then you cannot win small rating even if you win. Uri > >KarinsDad :)
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