Author: stuart taylor
Date: 20:17:24 05/10/00
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On May 10, 2000 at 10:52:19, Mark Andreoli wrote: > > I would like to _thank everyone_ for helping me try to solve the mystery >of why a lot of engines i.e. Fritz and Hiarcs etc. didn't find the _BEST_ move >Bf8. >( posted yesterday) > > Here are some _not all_ of the results: > > 1. Ed Schroder found it on Rebel using an athlon 1000Mhz/EPD2DIAG?in 1:31 > Q. Congratulations and What is an "EPD2DIAG"? > > 2.His Century and Century cd rom version also had success! > > 3. John Stanback found the move in 9 ply on Zarkov "by luck?"using one extra > ply in the capture/critical line!? > > 4. Dan Corbit had a nice conclusion that said "Bf8 was the GM move." > Q. I hope you test other programs and let me know the results! Thanks > > 5. Enrique Irazoqui found that F6a,Tiger and Nimzo 7.32 will find the move > after more then 10 minutes! more success! > > 6.Blass Uri states that Chessmaster will find it! although I am still a little > confused (although not totally)on _null moves_! > > 7. I read __all__ the comments posted by everyone and all answers seem to be >legitimate and in great detail! my compliments > > > BUT HERE GOES: I NEED SOME _FEEDBACK_ON A FEW _NAIVE CONCLUSIONS_!? THANKS > > 1.I have heard time after time that "there is only one best move in any given >position"(It makes sense /the one that wins the fastest) . In this case most of >us agreed it was 19.Bf8! Ok my question is why >didn't My Fritz 5 ,6 or Hiarcs find this move especially given the fact that F6 >is in the top 5 on the SSDF list?Are they weak analyzers? > > 2.How can it be that the above mentioned engines (F5/6/Hiarcs)manage to "Kick >Butt" time and time again on other engines who found Bf8 but _they_ were unable >to find it? So What engine is _really _ the strongest? > > 3. Given the fact that I do play a lot of tournament chess what _computer >chess program_ (Will the truly best analyzing engine please _stand up_!) do I >have to buy now to get a "second opinion" on my game positions. I still can't >express how disappointed I am in F5/F6 and Hiarcs for not finding 19.Bf8! >(remember Nenad Aleksic found it in only about 20 seconds over the board!) > > Thanks MJA //Comments will be greatly appreciated!!! I don't know which hiarcs did not get it in 10 mins. My Hiarcs 7.0 on a k6-3 400mhz. gets it in 14 mins. So hiarcs 7.32 I would have thought would take half that time. Anyway, isn't there a new HIARCS coming out in another 2 weeks from now? And in about another 4 weeks there might come out the Athlon/Duron chips, which will be the economy version-starting at 1250 mhz. The gaps will be narrowing! HIARCS? IS it coming?
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