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Subject: Re: Is Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 -Standard- useable?

Author: Sean Empey

Date: 23:48:30 05/10/00

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On May 11, 2000 at 02:31:04, Pete Galati wrote:

>On May 11, 2000 at 02:13:07, Adrien Regimbald wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>>>Is this inexpensive "Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 Standard" worth getting, or is
>>>>this a hopelessly stripped down version that would be basically useless.
>>>>
>>>>I was looking at it at Amazon and it's about 75$ and then there's a rebate, but
>>>>I can't tell from reading there promotional stuff if it can even compile a
>>>>useable program or if it'll be one of the deals where it'll only make a program
>>>>that'll only work from inside it's own IDE.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>>It's useless if you plan on optimizing your code for speed and many other
>>>things. So pretty much garbage IMO.
>>
>>I think your statement is a bit misleading..
>>
>>In terms of what is missing (assuming they haven't changed the format .. I've
>>owned previous versions of standard editions .. but currently have MSVC++ 6.0
>>Pro), it is basically compilation optimizing.
>>
>>The standard version should still be extremely useable for most of the things it
>>was truly intended for - design of GUI driven applications.
>>
>>If you are looking for a commercial compiler for chess programs though, the
>>standard edition of MSVC++ 6.0 will likely not be what you want.  It is not
>>however, garbage!  Compiling chess programs isn't even really what it is
>>intended for in the first place :P
>>
>>
>>Adrien.
>
>Would you estimate that it would maybe compile a Chess program that would be no
>faster than the average gcc?  In other words, would one of the biggest things
>I'd give up be the speed that MS compilers are know for, and basically I'd get a
>good package anyhow?  Because I'm not really convinced that I have a real need
>to be turning out ultra fast programs, when a good learning tool might really be
>more effective (as long as it really can compile programs).  And not that I have
>the backround to do it now, but I think creating a program & interface probably
>interests most people.
>
>Pete

He asked in CCC so I figured Pete was interested in compiling a chess program.

It will compile anything the Pro or Enterprise versions will, It is lacking
compiler optimizations and some other tools. GCC would compile a faster chess
engine than VC++ standard, if your goal was to churn out fast code. IMO it still
is garbage, but if you are learning and don't care... It will probably suit you
just fine. being that I try to optimize the speed of most of my code, chess
engine or not, I will stick with VC++ Enterprise.

I guess you could compare standard and pro/enterprise to a turtle and hare?

Sean



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