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Subject: Re: "Busting" computer engines and other pointless activities

Author: blass uri

Date: 13:39:44 05/11/00

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On May 11, 2000 at 14:52:10, KarinsDad wrote:

>On May 11, 2000 at 04:55:07, blass uri wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>
>>I was in the past a beta tester of Junior and I found holes in the program.
>>I found also after analyzing Rebel's game in the Isaeli league a hole in Rebel.
>>
>>I think that in most of the cases programmers cannot spend two hours to fix the
>>hole.
>>
>>Amir Ban did not fix some holes that I told him more than a one year ago.
>>Ed told me that he hope to fix the hole that I found in the next version so I
>>guess that it is clearly more than 2 hours of work.
>>
>>I believe that I can help programmers by finding holes in their program and
>>giving them ideas to help their program but I do not like to do it for nothing.
>>
>>I have also many ideas what to change when I am sure that part of them are
>>productive for chess programs and I posted some of them here.
>>
>>I will agree in the future to be part of a team for a chess program only if I
>>can get part of the money when it becomes commercial.
>>Most of the job is of the programmer and I expect him(her) to earn most of the
>>money.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I think the problem here is one of the role you want to play, and the role the
>programmers want you to play.
>
>The programmers want you to be a free beta tester if you wish.
>
>You want to be a free beta tester with design and bug fix input, or a paid beta
>tester with no design or bug fix input, or even best of both worlds, a paid beta
>tester with design and bug fix input.
>
>I think the only way that you are going to be satisfied with this is to write
>your own program. Expecting other people to credit you with finding holes in
>their program, or expecting them to fix holes that you have found in a timely
>manner, or expecting them to implement your design ideas is probably
>unrealistic.

I know that other programmers will probably not implement most of my ideas but
I know also that they can implement some of them(when they do not need to change
their design decisions).

Writing a new program is not an easy task and as I am probably not going to do
it without another person who want to work with me on the same project.

Uri



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