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Subject: Re: Which is the strongest program agains Human, It is Rebel or Fritz SSS ?

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 15:33:07 05/11/00

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On May 11, 2000 at 13:00:41, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote:

>On May 11, 2000 at 11:56:31, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>On May 11, 2000 at 09:52:56, Graham Laight wrote:
>>
>>>On May 10, 2000 at 16:13:18, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>Schroeder has demonstrated so far that Rebel is the strongest program against
>>>>Human, is frank trying to show us that indeed that is not the case, with his
>>>>test Version of Fritz SSS ?
>>>
>>>Are you sure about this?
>>>
>>>I thought that Fritz was getting very good results against GMs.
>>>
>>>According to the most recent TPRs I've seen, (recent CCC posting by Chris
>>>Carson), Fritz 6 already had 2489 - and I think it's rating will have risen
>>>since then, following some great results in the last few weeks.
>>>
>>>Rebel 9 has previously achieved a TPR of 2535, but Chris doesn't list Century's
>>>rating.
>>>
>>>On Rebel's home page, they describe Smyslov as a "SUPER GM", but they do not
>>>give a TPR for the Century Vs GM series (many of these games were not at
>>>tournament time controls anyway).
>>>
>>>-g
>>
>>Probably to answer this question the relation of the style of both computer and
>>human should be taken into account. My guess is that, being both F and R very
>>strong, they are differently dangerous to diferent kind of players, even in the
>>GM stratosphere. I do not believe that only expert level experience -mine- is
>>worth or enough to say nothing or much, but in my case I can, with some great
>>effort -but I can- get draws from Genius 6.5 at 40 moves in 90 minutes, but I am
>>sistematically busted by CSTAL II, that in theory is not as strong as Genius.
>>Just I can polay better with positional players, but I tend to lose track with
>>attackers, even knowing something is flawed in the attack. I am sure anybody
>>here has a similar different perfomance according the program they play. I tend
>>to believe that the same happens with GM players, in a degree, so for some of
>>them Fritz is more dangerous, for other could be Schrreder or Rebel Century.
>>Fernando
>
>After seeing many different spellings of the name of my program that is another
>one I haven't seen before. Fernando, maybe you are typing too fast :-)
>
>It's no Schrreder, Schredder, Schreder, Shreder but Shredder.
>
>Stefan

Sorry. I have never been capable of putting my fingers in tune with my thoughts
and my toughts in tune with my nerves. Yes, Shredder. Great program. Once I got
a draw from him. Just once, but anyway that makes me love it much more ..:-)
Fernando



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