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Subject: Re: Which is the strongest program agains Human, It is Rebel or Fritz SSS ?

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 10:25:07 05/13/00

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On May 11, 2000 at 18:33:07, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>On May 11, 2000 at 13:00:41, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote:
>
>>On May 11, 2000 at 11:56:31, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>
>>>On May 11, 2000 at 09:52:56, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 10, 2000 at 16:13:18, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Schroeder has demonstrated so far that Rebel is the strongest program against
>>>>>Human, is frank trying to show us that indeed that is not the case, with his
>>>>>test Version of Fritz SSS ?
>>>>
>>>>Are you sure about this?
>>>>
>>>>I thought that Fritz was getting very good results against GMs.
>>>>
>>>>According to the most recent TPRs I've seen, (recent CCC posting by Chris
>>>>Carson), Fritz 6 already had 2489 - and I think it's rating will have risen
>>>>since then, following some great results in the last few weeks.
>>>>
>>>>Rebel 9 has previously achieved a TPR of 2535, but Chris doesn't list Century's
>>>>rating.
>>>>
>>>>On Rebel's home page, they describe Smyslov as a "SUPER GM", but they do not
>>>>give a TPR for the Century Vs GM series (many of these games were not at
>>>>tournament time controls anyway).
>>>>
>>>>-g
>>>
>>>Probably to answer this question the relation of the style of both computer and
>>>human should be taken into account. My guess is that, being both F and R very
>>>strong, they are differently dangerous to diferent kind of players, even in the
>>>GM stratosphere. I do not believe that only expert level experience -mine- is
>>>worth or enough to say nothing or much, but in my case I can, with some great
>>>effort -but I can- get draws from Genius 6.5 at 40 moves in 90 minutes, but I am
>>>sistematically busted by CSTAL II, that in theory is not as strong as Genius.
>>>Just I can polay better with positional players, but I tend to lose track with
>>>attackers, even knowing something is flawed in the attack. I am sure anybody
>>>here has a similar different perfomance according the program they play. I tend
>>>to believe that the same happens with GM players, in a degree, so for some of
>>>them Fritz is more dangerous, for other could be Schrreder or Rebel Century.
>>>Fernando
>>
>>After seeing many different spellings of the name of my program that is another
>>one I haven't seen before. Fernando, maybe you are typing too fast :-)
>>
>>It's no Schrreder, Schredder, Schreder, Shreder but Shredder.
>>
>>Stefan
>
>Sorry. I have never been capable of putting my fingers in tune with my thoughts
>and my toughts in tune with my nerves. Yes, Shredder. Great program. Once I got
>a draw from him. Just once, but anyway that makes me love it much more ..:-)
>Fernando

The correct spelling of Shredder is not the issue here, wether your program is
stronger than Fritz SSS or not remain to be proved?.

Jorge



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