Author: blass uri
Date: 08:43:23 05/14/00
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On May 14, 2000 at 11:03:27, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On May 14, 2000 at 10:51:21, blass uri wrote: > >>On May 14, 2000 at 09:44:13, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >> >>>[Event "Dutch championship"] >>>[Site "?"] >>>[Date "2000.??.??"] >>>[Round "?"] >>>[White "Van Wely"] >>>[Black "Fritz SSS"] >>>[Result "1-0"] >>>[ECO "A25"] >>>[WhiteElo "2646"] >>>[PlyCount "49"] >>> >>>1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 Nc6 4. Nc3 Bb4 5. a3 Bxc3 6. bxc3 O-O 7. e4 a6 8. a4 >>>d6 9. d3 Bg4 10. f3 Bd7 11. Ne2 Qc8 12. h3 b6 13. f4 Be6 14. f5 Bd7 15. g4 Ne8 >>>16. Ng3 Qd8 17. g5 Bc8 18. h4 f6 19. Qh5 Na5 20. Ra3 Qe7 21. Nf1 Nc6 22. Ne3 >>>Qd7 23. g6 h6 24. Ng4 Ra7 25. Rg1 1-0 >>> >>>Enrique >> >>The last positions in this game are good test positions when the question is not >>to find the best move but how much time do programs need to find a tactical >>change in the evaluation. >> >>Most programs do not see a clear advantage for white before they see the >>tactics. >> >>It is interesting to know if programs that are considered to be best in tactics >>by your secret test can see a clear change faster. > >Then try Fritz 6a, Tiger, CM6K and Nimzo, in that order the fastest finders. But >I am not so interested in this. What I would like to see is a program capable of >playing games like yesterday's and today's with some "common sense". The faster >changes you mention won't help, because by the moment they realize what's going >on it will be too late. Not to talk about the ugly playing. It is not going to help in this game but in other positions it may help(I think that the game that Rebel lost fast is a good example when seeing the tactic is more close to the horizon of the programs) > >So from now on I expect similar closed openings and slow manouvres in the 3 >games that Fritz will play. Interesting anti-computer play, showing programs at >their worst. Fritz will change the opening book in the next games and it is not clear if the opponents can go to similiar positions in the last games. Uri
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