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Subject: Re: Fritz SSS and the future Top P.C. Programs are surpassing strong GM.

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 09:57:15 05/14/00

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On May 14, 2000 at 02:14:10, blass uri wrote:

>On May 13, 2000 at 23:38:45, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On May 13, 2000 at 22:07:38, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>On May 13, 2000 at 19:51:18, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>I remember 13 years ago when the top program Mchess was reaching Master level
>>>>close to 2200 Elo by USCF and I also remember a statement from Larry Kaufman
>>>>saying that it will take at least a good 15 years for a P.C. program to reach
>>>>GM level at the rate of Processors speed doubling every years, at that time the
>>>>top Processor was a mere 80286 operating at 12 Mhz at the most. I Thought at
>>>>that time that Kasparov if he  was still Champion will defeat very easy a P.C.
>>>>in game in 30 minutes per side. But now that the time has arrived I realize that
>>>>any of the top three P.C. Programs with any processor higher than 800
>>>>Mhz can beat Kasparov in game in 30 minutes per side.
>>>>
>>>>PS: Since piket just recently beat Kasparov in the Grand Prix not to long ago,
>>>>and Fritz SSS drew Piket at the Dutch Tournamwent, I can almost presume that in
>>>>game in 60 minutes per side, Fritz SSS or any other top three Programs can beat
>>>>Kasparov in a mini match of 7 games using the latest Processor.
>>>
>>>I beat Michael Oshiro, who beat Viktors Pupols, who beat Bobby Fischer.
>>>Therefore, I am a better chess player than Bobby Fischer.
>>>
>>>bruce
>>
>>
>>Good Point I did exagerated a little when I presume that in game in 60 minutes
>>per side any of the top three programs can beat Kasparov, but i still hold that
>>Kasparov no longer can beat any of the top three programs in a mini match of 7
>>games in game 30 minutes per side.
>
>I am not sure about it.
>When kasparov played against Genius3 he believed that he is playing against
>Genius2.
>
>Kasparov won Genius3 1.5:.5 later when Genius3 used p120.
>I think that the time control was 25 minutes/game.
>
>I think that the fact that kasparov has the top programs and can learn their
>weaknesses and their games is a big advantage.
>
>Uri

After watching the latest game between Van wely vs Fritz SSS I am more convinced
that even with the clear advantage that Van Wely had if this would have been
game in 30 Minutes per side and the program is set not to resign unless there is
an advantage of minus 9 points it is clear that fritz SSS or any other top
programs giving this same position can hold until the time of 30 minutes has
passed by the human player therefore losing the won game.



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