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Subject: Re: Van Wely-Fritz 1-0

Author: Mauro Garza

Date: 11:30:53 05/14/00

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On May 14, 2000 at 11:43:23, blass uri wrote:

>On May 14, 2000 at 11:03:27, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On May 14, 2000 at 10:51:21, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>On May 14, 2000 at 09:44:13, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>>
>>>>[Event "Dutch championship"]
>>>>[Site "?"]
>>>>[Date "2000.??.??"]
>>>>[Round "?"]
>>>>[White "Van Wely"]
>>>>[Black "Fritz SSS"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "A25"]
>>>>[WhiteElo "2646"]
>>>>[PlyCount "49"]
>>>>
>>>>1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 Nc6 4. Nc3 Bb4 5. a3 Bxc3 6. bxc3 O-O 7. e4 a6 8. a4
>>>>d6 9. d3 Bg4 10. f3 Bd7 11. Ne2 Qc8 12. h3 b6 13. f4 Be6 14. f5 Bd7 15. g4 Ne8
>>>>16. Ng3 Qd8 17. g5 Bc8 18. h4 f6 19. Qh5 Na5 20. Ra3 Qe7 21. Nf1 Nc6 22. Ne3
>>>>Qd7 23. g6 h6 24. Ng4 Ra7 25. Rg1 1-0
>>>>
>>>>Enrique
>>>
>>>The last positions in this game are good test positions when the question is not
>>>to find the best move but how much time do programs need to find a tactical
>>>change in the evaluation.
>>>
>>>Most programs do not see a clear advantage for white before they see the
>>>tactics.
>>>
>>>It is interesting to know if programs that are considered to be best in tactics
>>>by your secret test can see a clear change faster.
>>
>>Then try Fritz 6a, Tiger, CM6K and Nimzo, in that order the fastest finders. But
>>I am not so interested in this. What I would like to see is a program capable of
>>playing games like yesterday's and today's with some "common sense". The faster
>>changes you mention won't help, because by the moment they realize what's going
>>on it will be too late. Not to talk about the ugly playing.
>
>It is not going to help in this game but in other positions it may help(I think
>that the game that Rebel lost fast is a good example when seeing the tactic is
>more close to the horizon of the programs)
>
>>
>>So from now on I expect similar closed openings and slow manouvres in the 3
>>games that Fritz will play. Interesting anti-computer play, showing programs at
>>their worst.
>
>Fritz will change the opening book in the next games and it is not clear if the
>opponents can go to similiar positions in the last games.
>
>Uri


Guys Please give some credit to the other side, the player is a "Grand Master"


Mauro



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